Yeah, I heard that. But I'm asking because I keep seeing different dates and it seems to move further away. My thoughts are, if we have a date and can chart some progress, great; otherwise, shouldn't we have a plan B as in any battle/war? The way things look, we're depending on the mil. to do the right thing. But the mil/ind. complex might have different goals from patriots. and i'm not grouping mil and soldiers, just mil which has control of weapons/nuclear etc and whose existence depends on endless wars and would benefit from having pedo joe as warmonger in chief?. Do we have a conflict of interest?