Does anyone have any insight on “The book of Enoch”?
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I recently read thru it and I’m trying to get a little more background and resources that can fill in some of the blanks. Thanks in advance!
Edit: holy smokes, thanks everyone! I will definitely be making another thread after I do some digging!
Differentiate between Enoch 1 and the others, 2 and 3.
There has been more validity accorded to Enoch 1 than the others. Enoch 1 is quoted in Scripture, and was accepted as "Scripture" by first century Essenes, I believe.
Info we have on unholy angels comes primarily from Enoch 1.
Yes, Enoch and Elijah were "translated" to heaven, without physical death.
interesting, I didn't know there were that many manuscripts.
do you have a translation that you prefer? I downloaded the Geneva Bible, and have enjoyed that so far. but I was raised Catholic, so new to Bible study...
Thanks, yes, I am familiar with the history.
The "chain of custody" was not broken within the Ethiopian Orthodox church as far as I know.
We seem to be a little near sighted at times, thinking that only the western RCC interpretations matter.
I hope this is all still helpful to MNisahellhole poster! I didn't really know how much detail was needed.
A reference to Dead Sea findings, and below that, recommendation for in depth "Commentary" on Enoch 1 by Dr. Michael S. Heiser if you prefer to read books.... he can probably have about the last word as far as I can tell!
(A semetic language specialist and prolific writer/speaker.) Can find him on Youtube, too. There are a number on this topic, but this one is about how the early church viewed Book of Enoch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og4TkHso4Egenter text
The Enoch Scroll The Enoch Scroll The Enoch Scroll Translation of the Enoch Scroll
Hanokh 4Q201(En ar[superscript]a) Parchment Copied ca. 200-150 B.C.E. Fragment A: height 17.5 cm (6 7/8 in.), length 17.5 cm (6 7/8 in.) Fragment B: height 6.4 cm (2 1/2 in.), length 6.9 cm (2 11/16 in.) Courtesy of the Israel Antiquities Authority (11)
One of the most important apocryphic works of the Second Temple Period is Enoch. According to the biblical narrative (Genesis 5:21-24), Enoch lived only 365 years (far less than the other patriarchs in the period before the Flood). Enoch "walked with God; then he was no more for God took him."
The original language of most of this work was, in all likelihood, Aramaic (an early Semitic language). Although the original version was lost in antiquity, portions of a Greek translation were discovered in Egypt and quotations were known from the Church Fathers. The discovery of the texts from Qumran Cave 4 has finally provided parts of the Aramaic original. In the fragment exhibited here, humankind is called on to observe how unchanging nature follows God's will.
Reference: Milik, J. T. The Books of Enoch: Aramaic Fragments of Qumran Cave 4. Oxford, 1976.
For anyone interested to be as discerning as possible about Enoch 1, I would suggest** "A Companion to the Book of Enoch: A Reader's Commentary, VOL. 1;" ** by Dr. Michael S. Heiser. He addresses multitude of details, including different translations, original languages and manuscripts sources, how the second Temple Period Jews received it, how the Early Church viewed it, and even the relationship between Enoch 1 and the Book of Giants found at Qumran.