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It is perfectly right if you are secular here, you can be secular as long as you accept Christian culture as one of roots of Euro-American culture which resulted in birth of United States of America of it's founding fathers.If you don't accept it you are probably not here and don't care about freedom anyway
Did you heard about Oriana Falacci ? Italian journalist who were Italian patriot who moved to America. She were atheist in fact,atheist with even quite political left roots ! But despite she was sowing political division against muslims as barbarians and so in her text/manifesto "The Rage and The Pride" after 9/11 (well it is worth reading anyway) But except those cricicizing Muslims that text was one big praise of America and American people,American values. And what she else said ? Sorry for google translate because I don't found english original:
It is all about it. How was born respect to the individual rights,invidual freedoms in western culture if not because of having roots in christianity ? It is not about religious vs secular it is about culture being like the tree. Kill the roots - the tree will die. And that mean freedom and respect to us as individuals dead. Got it ?
u/HarryxD What religion respects individual as being sovereign entity then ? Islam ? Of course not, islam means "perfect obedience to the god" and leaders ! ` ? It is so tribal culture obsessed with tribal loyalty - it is not. Ancient Roman or Greek Culture claiming slavery was natural and having no respect for human life ? Almost individualistic (for the leaders) but still government bootlicking as cultural norm. WHAT RELIGION ? Some Asian maybe - you know how individualistic is Chinese or Japanese original culture... /s
Most religions don't give a fuck about you as INDIVIDUAL. People of those religions and cultures don't like to be oppressed too of course,but they don't even understand clearly those concept of BEING FREE MAN ! Christianity did the most of it among the others about lowering iron grasp of rulers and mainstream "society",and that is root and soil - on which idea of freedom grew and flourished.
Why the fuck despite England being oppressive,like Catholic church being quite oppressive even "heresies" of people wanting individual freedom happened ? Do you think all cultures allow individualism if you believe you are right as virtue ?
In Christianity Jesus is "good Shepherd caring about all sheeps",ready to leave 99 to rescue the one lost. That's the key. Compare those to old Chinese communist "morality" where if you get hit by car driver would like to hit you again to avoid responsibility, or average person on the street avoid helping you and calling ambulance. If some Chinese become better - it because of our cultural influence !
Remove the vision of individual being important and that will uproot freedom. It is the cause of the war against Christianity besides satanist or other fanaticism.
Which religion respects the individual as a sovereign entity? I would say any that believe in free will. Secular humanism does not and relies on determinism to justify our decisions, so there is no personal responsibility. Every other religion believes in free will.
Also, why would you bring up government bootlicking and completely ignore Romans 13? By your logic, Christianity does not care about the individual either. I'm not saying that I believe that, but your argument is all over the place.
I said not really "respects" at its core.I said allowed enough respect to let freedom grow. Fertile soil.Simply.
The thing is: what other societies were tollerant to other sociieties and religions before western societies ? Think or shut up.
Ancient India was tolerant to other societies, as were the ancient mongolians, the Iroquois league (Deganawida and Hiawatha did great work uniting tribes who previously warred against each other), the vikings allowed a muslim scholar to stay with them for an extended period of time, exchanging culture, the Jews and Muslims used to get along more civilly than they do now, we can throw in the trade among most native americans, and there are countless other examples.
What creates western exceptionalism today is what put the west on equal footing with the rest of the world back then. Humanism took over many countries in the form of communism, setting them back hundreds of years.
Societies maybe but individuals ? By the way: It isn't about "tolerance" it is about freedom !. You want only "tolerance" then go lick Bidet and Camela ass !
Tribal culture with little to none respect for individualism where kidnapping a wife was common practice. Gengis armies murdered 10% of his times human population worldwide,and raped so many womens with his sons that his genes are probably in 8% of asian man population. Nice people /s
Again - it isn't about "tolerance",it is about idea of freedom ! You don't have to be tolerant to embrace freedom.It is nice when you are,but it is not about tolerance. Vikings by the way ? Nice people even if they were not drinking from the skulls in fact /s
Iroquois league - again tollerant maybe yes, but we are talking about freedom.
Again - it is not about tolerance but about freedom.Do you even have those word in your dictionary ? Do you understand what this word is ? F.R.E.E.D.O.M. How many times again I have to repeat those word ?
And I disagree about Muslims being tolerant in any countries where there were any important non-musslim minority living with them. Talking about muslims... Well... Until they are not too religious everything is fine,but the fact is many of their "priests" consider paedophilia legal and not only that. Islam as religion completely reject idea of freedom and it is more than religion - it is kind of theocratic totalitarian social system. ISIS not differs from those Muslims who were fought during crushades, our civilization advanced morally but theirs is still in dark ages.Or worse...: women circumcision... If I were optimist I would claim it is because of their calendar (you know,in Muslim calendar we have year 1442 ;D ),but really it is not about that.