The name Juan O'Savin obviously sounds like 107. President JFK was pronounced dead once last rites were performed by a Catholic priest. when?? 1:07 PM
hmmm.
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If the father dies, is the son still a junior? Isn’t he a II?
Don't quote me on this, but I think Jr. is the son and III would be the grandson or the son of the son. When ll is used, it's someone in the family not directly related. For example: John F. Kennedy's son is John F. Kennedy, Jr., if John F. Kennedy, Jr., had a son, that son would be John F. Kennedy, lll. Those designations never change because even if your father is dead, he is still the first with that name. Now, if JFK, Jr., wanted to drop the Jr., formality after his father's death, he could, but legally, he'd need to sign docs with the formal name.
Now, if Robert F. Kennedy had a son and named him after his uncle, John F. Kenned, Robert's son would be John F. Kennedy, ll.
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According to Emily Post (from 2007): Q. I have a question about the etiquette of generational titles. If there is a junior and the senior dies, does the junior still use this title? What if there are several generational titles?
A. A man with the same name as his father uses "Jr." after his name as long as his father is alive. He may drop the "Jr." after his father's death, or if her prefers, he may retain it in order not to be confused with his late father. When a man is named after his father, who is a "Jr.", he is called 3rd or III. A man named after his grandfather, uncle or cousin is called 2nd or II. We hope this addresses your question!
Me: So perhaps Jr. no longer wishes to retain the Jr. Thus JFK Jr no longer exists.
Thanks for the added information. I'm not leaning toward the JFK, Jr., is alive yet, but I'm not challenging those who say he is. I'm just questioning if "No, Q" isn't as definitive as I think it is and that it is not misinformation.
And I never knew they could drop the name legally. I thought they wouldn't have to use it on formal documentation. Someone like JFK, Jr., though, if not using the junior would cause some confusion.
Joe Smith, Jr., wouldn't have too much of a problem. :-)