I'm not ignoring what you said. Feel free to provide better examples for me.
As I mentioned earlier, the Jesuits that I know personally from school and those public figures involved in politics are NOT what I consider to be fine examples of Godly servants/leaders. They're certainly successful in their chosen fields to be sure, but also ruthless silver-tongued liars achieving their goals at nearly any cost. Most folks admire their success, I don't.
Why would I provide MORE examples of terrible Jesuits when that isn't the point being made?
Again, the Jesuits were targeted for infiltration and what you saw was the infiltration, not the Jesuits.
When a person smears all of the Jesuits on the whole, it plays into the Freemasonic hand and I think that's counterproductive. You're letting yourself work for the same people you despise.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant to ask for was an example of a Jesuit who IS NOT a lying thieving banker or corrupt politician. If you know of one, please share.
I really didn't set out to smear ALL of the Jesuits on the whole, but clearly I did just that. So I backtracked my statement and agreed with you that probably not ALL Jesuits are engaged in evil. I simply don't know of one that I trust.
I decided to go looking and I have to be honest here, there aren't scads of trustworthy Jesuits. The list of famous corrupt Jesuits is quite long is. The list of uncorrupt Jesuits is NOT... But eventually I found that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was Jesuit educated. I thought he was a good man and judge, but I believe he was murdered while on some sort of secret society retreat, so there's that.
I'm choosing to remain unaffiliated and will continue to discern and despise ALL EVIL regardless of group identity. Nothing personal against you though.
I'm not ignoring what you said. Feel free to provide better examples for me.
As I mentioned earlier, the Jesuits that I know personally from school and those public figures involved in politics are NOT what I consider to be fine examples of Godly servants/leaders. They're certainly successful in their chosen fields to be sure, but also ruthless silver-tongued liars achieving their goals at nearly any cost. Most folks admire their success, I don't.
Why would I provide MORE examples of terrible Jesuits when that isn't the point being made?
Again, the Jesuits were targeted for infiltration and what you saw was the infiltration, not the Jesuits.
When a person smears all of the Jesuits on the whole, it plays into the Freemasonic hand and I think that's counterproductive. You're letting yourself work for the same people you despise.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant to ask for was an example of a Jesuit who IS NOT a lying thieving banker or corrupt politician. If you know of one, please share.
I really didn't set out to smear ALL of the Jesuits on the whole, but clearly I did just that. So I backtracked my statement and agreed with you that probably not ALL Jesuits are engaged in evil. I simply don't know of one that I trust.
I decided to go looking and I have to be honest here, there aren't scads of trustworthy Jesuits. The list of famous corrupt Jesuits is quite long is. The list of uncorrupt Jesuits is NOT... But eventually I found that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was Jesuit educated. I thought he was a good man and judge, but I believe he was murdered while on some sort of secret society retreat, so there's that.
I'm choosing to remain unaffiliated and will continue to discern and despise ALL EVIL regardless of group identity. Nothing personal against you though.
Fr. Mitch Pacwa, Fr. Robert Spitzer, Fr. Ronald Tacelli, and Fr. Paul Mankowski...