makes sense, I've heard a few different stories on the exact predicament they are in. Where I've landed is the nose is stuck in the earth on the bank and the back-end is somewhat dug in, but still free-floating, as well as the middle of the ship. doesnt seem like there would be much stress put on it if they pulled from the ass-end towards the nose-bank, while simultaneously pulling directly backwards as well as pulling the nose, so 3 point tug (2 land position tugs, and one boat pulling it straight back). that and these ships have got to have a hull a few inches thick (I would think at least) and thats a sand bank so its not going to have snag points or hard rocks, idk, again I admit to being well outside my wheelhouse on understanding why this is so hard to fix, ive worked with heavy equipment, but nothing near that heavy.
It's not my bailiwick but I have seen these ships. They're really big, like 1213 feet, almost a quarter mile long. I would reckon that changes the physics involved. This ain't just your average Bass boat stuck in a shallow canal. Last time I just told Uncle Tommy to get out and push, old boy weighed nearly 450.
lol, I'm not THAT clueless, I assumed most people would understand I'm not referring to a winch attached to a vehicle. I'm referring to something (for lack of finding an image with an appropriate sized winch, or even multiple on either bank, that could be transported to the site and anchored to the ground in whatever way) like this https://www.siebenhaar-antriebstechnik.com/images/2_Winch_Hafen.jpg on either bank, and then get a boat like a dredger, that has these winches on them to pull from behind https://www.siebenhaar-antriebstechnik.com/en/news/siebenhaar-delivers-winches-for-the-currently-largest-cutter-suction-dredger-of-the-world. seems like an appropriate step to take if this one ship is halting world shipping trade. also, gotta remember its mostly free-floating so the winches will not be needed to pull very hard as if it were completely land lodged, if the ass-end is mostly free floating it would seem to make sense that once that is pulled back towards the center of the canal (along with pulling from the other 2 locations I described) that the nose should eventually pull free, I know those ships have those really long protruding noses but I mean come on, it couldnt have buried itself very far-especially since those ships are slow as fuck, heavy as fuck, but slow. I would think the top speed allowed in the canal is pretty low as well
No intent at malice just poking fun at the ingenuity of good ole boys from the country, I'm one of them. I was thinking more along the lines of offloading conainers at the bow until it drafts less. A ship with cranes to offload cargo or something. Then I read that the ship can hold 20000 containers, even if you could offload one every 5 minutes it would take an eternity.
It would be a weight and height issue for the crane. Container ships are usually unloaded at a port with installed overhead cranes that can take the weight and have mechanical advantage with the high fretboard. Tge sides of that vessel are probably 30 to 50 above the waterline. A normal or floating crane may not handle it
makes sense, I've heard a few different stories on the exact predicament they are in. Where I've landed is the nose is stuck in the earth on the bank and the back-end is somewhat dug in, but still free-floating, as well as the middle of the ship. doesnt seem like there would be much stress put on it if they pulled from the ass-end towards the nose-bank, while simultaneously pulling directly backwards as well as pulling the nose, so 3 point tug (2 land position tugs, and one boat pulling it straight back). that and these ships have got to have a hull a few inches thick (I would think at least) and thats a sand bank so its not going to have snag points or hard rocks, idk, again I admit to being well outside my wheelhouse on understanding why this is so hard to fix, ive worked with heavy equipment, but nothing near that heavy.
It's not my bailiwick but I have seen these ships. They're really big, like 1213 feet, almost a quarter mile long. I would reckon that changes the physics involved. This ain't just your average Bass boat stuck in a shallow canal. Last time I just told Uncle Tommy to get out and push, old boy weighed nearly 450.
lol, I'm not THAT clueless, I assumed most people would understand I'm not referring to a winch attached to a vehicle. I'm referring to something (for lack of finding an image with an appropriate sized winch, or even multiple on either bank, that could be transported to the site and anchored to the ground in whatever way) like this https://www.siebenhaar-antriebstechnik.com/images/2_Winch_Hafen.jpg on either bank, and then get a boat like a dredger, that has these winches on them to pull from behind https://www.siebenhaar-antriebstechnik.com/en/news/siebenhaar-delivers-winches-for-the-currently-largest-cutter-suction-dredger-of-the-world. seems like an appropriate step to take if this one ship is halting world shipping trade. also, gotta remember its mostly free-floating so the winches will not be needed to pull very hard as if it were completely land lodged, if the ass-end is mostly free floating it would seem to make sense that once that is pulled back towards the center of the canal (along with pulling from the other 2 locations I described) that the nose should eventually pull free, I know those ships have those really long protruding noses but I mean come on, it couldnt have buried itself very far-especially since those ships are slow as fuck, heavy as fuck, but slow. I would think the top speed allowed in the canal is pretty low as well
No intent at malice just poking fun at the ingenuity of good ole boys from the country, I'm one of them. I was thinking more along the lines of offloading conainers at the bow until it drafts less. A ship with cranes to offload cargo or something. Then I read that the ship can hold 20000 containers, even if you could offload one every 5 minutes it would take an eternity.
It would be a weight and height issue for the crane. Container ships are usually unloaded at a port with installed overhead cranes that can take the weight and have mechanical advantage with the high fretboard. Tge sides of that vessel are probably 30 to 50 above the waterline. A normal or floating crane may not handle it