I called up a few local lawyers to ask what can be done about my state of Michigan's local mask laws and the executive order from MDHHS. Only one answered, basically said I would have to hire doctors and researchers to fight the State's doctors in court over the health matters in the EO.
~ In short, the most recent EO from March 19th stated that 1.3 people per million per day were dying from covid, 5% of all occupants in hospital beds were covid patients, and that masks work.
~ The EO used these statistics as a reason to declare it an epidemic. It's sick, and it seems obviously criminal, dishonest, and tyrannical, but what can be done? The definitions of 'epidemic' are criminally/laughably vague per WebMD and CDC. They don't have to prove any of their science. This is a problem.
~ Side Note: I researched most of the mask arrests and they seemed to be misdemeanor criminal trespassing.
~ It seems somehow the burden of proof is on us regarding the health concerns and the spirit of the EO (safety), and we are guilty until proven innocent. How the fuck did we get here? There's got to be a legal way to fight these outrageous declarations. I am watching businesses being held hostage at gunpoint to be the middle men for the tyrannical takeover of the State. (See Marlena Pavlos-Hackney)
~ Here's what I thought in a hypothetical. (See if you can get anything viable from this):
~ “You are charging me solely with ‘misdemeanor criminal trespassing’ because I refused to wear a mask and the owner of the gym asked me to leave. I peacefully refused to until the police arrived, and was peacefully arrested, or given a ticket to a judge. The failure to press me with the additional direct charges of anything pertaining to the effect of “endangering public health” means that the court and legal entities of my locality have failed to prove that they recognize the validity of the ‘mask and health concerns and the corresponding laws, rules, and potential violations which transpire’ of the current Michigan Executive Order.
~ Specifically:
- The efficacy of masks.
- The deadliness (or lack thereof) of COVID-19.
- The dishonest classification of 1.3 people per million per day dying from COVID-19 as an epidemic. Notably, an epidemic that the MDHHS deems worthy of an Executive Order restricting the freedom of choice of the people in my locality.
~ I am arguing that the court or legal entity of my state has never explicitly confirmed the science and validity of the claims made in the EO.
~ If the court fails to recognize the validity of any of these 3 stipulations put forth in the current Executive Order, then it has no right to prosecute me of any violation that is directly concerned with these pillars which hold up the Executive Order’s power and weight.
~ Reiterating, because the courts and legal entities of my locality have not recognized my situation with a direct criminal charge of anything pertaining to the effect of “endangering public health”, then all criminal violations in the spirit of “endangering public health” in any way are void until proven otherwise.
~ In summary, if you do not recognize the validity of all 3 of the ‘mask and health concerns and the corresponding laws, rules, and potential violations which transpire’ of the current Michigan Executive Order that I have listed, then you have no honest legal power to charge me with any violations that pertain to the laws put forth in that same spirit in the current Executive Order.”
~ I understand none of this holds much water because it lacks actual legal wisdom, but could anything like this be done?
Thank you for the reference on how a bill forms and becomes law. I'm nearly the only one in the Kroger that doesn't wear a mask, never had any trouble which is great, but I know in other places I would go it would escalate to the cops being called and then a real legal battle over refusing to a wear a mask would ensue, which is unfortunate.
They've slithered past forming a bill and turning it into law via a health EO which sucks. I'm going to do a bit of research on Executive Orders over the weekend, to see just what kind of power and boundaries they actually have. I know they cannot infringe on constitutional rights, so that could bust the whole system there, although that did not stop them from doing what they did to Marlena Pavlos-Hackney.
West Michigan here. I have been all over w/o mask and no one other than a greeter at Costco has said anything. The only place I actually put a mask on was the airport, but not until I reached security line.
If there comes a time when a class action lawsuit is enacted, I'm second in line.
You're welcome dear. You are already ahead because you won't wear one in Kroger! Stay strong my friend. You can do this. I hope to the good Lord Marlena sues the lesbian attorney general Dana Nessel. No wonder she's so miserable.