that seems a ridiculous theory...just so they can't say he's anti-vax, really ?
the deep state seems to be the one with the agenda to convince folks that J&J is no good, so admittedly I can tend to take their support as proof to not support and their witch hunts on people and products to be good cause to be supportive on those rare occasions I don't feel the need to go down a rabbit hole.
and yiou say it's not remotely close to flu vax because you've heard stories or you have FIRST HAND experience and/or knowledge of real damage from the vax ?
I am anti-vax all around so don't get me wrong, I think almost all vax are bad and I had thought for a period that the covidiot vax was very harmful and DNA altering, but after more discernment I don't think Trump/Q/white hats would allow folks to take these if they were what you think they are. just my humble opinion
Little background, sorry....I'm a physician working in drug development. Probably should have thrown that out there.
The KEY difference...
The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth.
The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated (the CDC has even admitted this). So the "vaccines" (which these are NOT) have mRNA in them that SUPPOSEDLY cause the cells in your body to generate a spike protein on the cell surface that MAY mimic what Covid-19 produces in your cells, thus allowing your immune system to recognize it. HOWEVER...the spike protein is generated on all of your cells and can cause a massive autoimmune response to your own cells and organs. This is just one of the side effects. There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain).
Trump is NOT pushing the vaccine out of benevolence or any clinical data. There is none to indicate it works. The safety profiles are available online via the VAERs on the CDC website. It's a complicated search, which they make unnecessarily complicate and difficult for the general public to use. Also, there is no long-term safety data, the drugs are NOT approved by the FDA, and the studies aren't expected to present all safety data until 2023 or 2024. WE are the experiemental subjects in this study, and it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment.
Trump is playing the game by using their language and taking ammunition away from them. I didn't say I agreed with it. But if he came out anti-vax, they would rip him a new one over it. That's the reason he also rushed the vaccine to the public before the election. He took that "victory" away form them, too. Hell, the drugs were ready well before the election and they delayed release to try to make him look bad.
thank you for the background and your passing along of knowledge. my extensive research has lead me to all of the same medical conclusions you have relayed. it's reassuring to learn that your studied opinions/facts align with mine. for example:
I fully agree with all of this and would add that even if they get the stain correct it tends to only show benefits for less than 50% of those getting the jab... "The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth."
I agree with this "The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated".
And i agree "it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment."
This i find highly questionable "There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain)." I mean who is telling us this? the same lying main stream media? is it possible J&J is the equivalent to the cabal in the covid vax venue as Trump is in the political venue? dig real deep and ask yourself why couldn't this be the case?
i would ask that we try to start with a clean slate and a realization of how manipulated our realities can become based upon our willingness to trust in sources we maybe shouldn't, and in some cases trusting in sources we should trust but recognizing even they can be duped.
i am not here to tell you or anyone that i know anything to be absolutely true, so if i choose my words improperly please understand that i realize there's always reason for some doubt even if it's only miniscule. instead a attempt to think critically and as a result i can often prove myself wrong, or someone else can, but in any event being wrong doesn't bother me. it instead keeps me humble.
i would start with asking, has trump lied to his supporters? my answer is no. and I'm not referring to campaign rhetoric such as Mexico paying for the wall which i think it truly tried to accomplish and may have to some extent, but meaningful statements and promises.
why would trump choose to only lie about this one significant matter? and what consequences would it have if he then became known as the guy that lied but "only when he decided it was for our own good"? i don't believe trump would lie and if he did it would be detrimental and go against everything he claims to stand for and the heart and soul of our community which recognizes that honesty is the utmost sign of one's character.
so if trump didn't lie, how can he possibly say the "vaccine" is safe? does, or perhaps more accurately "did", he have the ability through known and unknown unilateral presidential powers to do things for the sake of the country? i think so and he's said as much about these powers out loud when he was recognized as president by the entire country.
if he had such awesome powers could he have essentially forced the big pharmas through these powers and through 1 key officer to issue a covid vax that was actually the prior years flu vax or something of the like? people to ignorant to wake up yet that get the covid vax feel bullet proof (and i know some of these people personally) and those not taking it realize it's bullshit. trump would then know he's not killing anyone, or at least not any idiot that wouldn't have received the regular flu shot anyway.
vaers is easy to fake harms whether by the design of trump and the other white hats or by warped people just looking to scare people. i just can't come up with any other reasonable explanation for trump telling his supporters it's safe. there's no logic in it being some code wink wink that he realizes we realize not to get it and to hell with non supporting Americans. that's not trump and not god
i don't know of any real vax harms and i know lots of ignorant fools that have gone and got the jabs. any reports either aren't directly from a reliable source or they seem as if they could be from patriots acting the part as part of the scare Q says is necessary
VAERs are, if anything, being under-reported. They are not "faked".
And I know people in the industry who work on mRNA treatments foe certain rare diseases. Thrombocytopenia and protein-related side effects are prevalent. These are the exact reasons these drugs don't make it to market. Too dangerous, too much risk for too little gain. Yet these "vaccines" did not have to prove themselves. I am not trusting blind info from "big pharma", I am NOT trusting the information they aren't telling us from poorly run studies. Huge difference.
Anti-vax or not, getting this injection is pure stupidity.
if you are to free your mind from the prison that we've all been in for so long it starts with humility and recognizing how little we actually know. my screen name is based on a famous quote attributed to Socrates that reads along the lines of "i now know I'm intelligent because i know i know nothing", or something to that effect.
i know that i don't know if vaers is over reported , under reported or accurate but my theory suggests it's over reported.
you state with such certainty that you know it's under reported. we, like the sheep we seek to wake up need to avoid our own confirmation biases.
that seems a ridiculous theory...just so they can't say he's anti-vax, really ?
the deep state seems to be the one with the agenda to convince folks that J&J is no good, so admittedly I can tend to take their support as proof to not support and their witch hunts on people and products to be good cause to be supportive on those rare occasions I don't feel the need to go down a rabbit hole.
and yiou say it's not remotely close to flu vax because you've heard stories or you have FIRST HAND experience and/or knowledge of real damage from the vax ?
I am anti-vax all around so don't get me wrong, I think almost all vax are bad and I had thought for a period that the covidiot vax was very harmful and DNA altering, but after more discernment I don't think Trump/Q/white hats would allow folks to take these if they were what you think they are. just my humble opinion
Little background, sorry....I'm a physician working in drug development. Probably should have thrown that out there.
The KEY difference... The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth.
The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated (the CDC has even admitted this). So the "vaccines" (which these are NOT) have mRNA in them that SUPPOSEDLY cause the cells in your body to generate a spike protein on the cell surface that MAY mimic what Covid-19 produces in your cells, thus allowing your immune system to recognize it. HOWEVER...the spike protein is generated on all of your cells and can cause a massive autoimmune response to your own cells and organs. This is just one of the side effects. There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain).
Trump is NOT pushing the vaccine out of benevolence or any clinical data. There is none to indicate it works. The safety profiles are available online via the VAERs on the CDC website. It's a complicated search, which they make unnecessarily complicate and difficult for the general public to use. Also, there is no long-term safety data, the drugs are NOT approved by the FDA, and the studies aren't expected to present all safety data until 2023 or 2024. WE are the experiemental subjects in this study, and it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment.
Trump is playing the game by using their language and taking ammunition away from them. I didn't say I agreed with it. But if he came out anti-vax, they would rip him a new one over it. That's the reason he also rushed the vaccine to the public before the election. He took that "victory" away form them, too. Hell, the drugs were ready well before the election and they delayed release to try to make him look bad.
thank you for the background and your passing along of knowledge. my extensive research has lead me to all of the same medical conclusions you have relayed. it's reassuring to learn that your studied opinions/facts align with mine. for example:
I fully agree with all of this and would add that even if they get the stain correct it tends to only show benefits for less than 50% of those getting the jab... "The flu vaccine has "inactivated influenza virus" in it. It's a guess at what strain of the flu will be going around in any given year, but the virus itself is in the vaccine. This allows your immune system to mount an immune response to a SPECIFIC virus. The down-side is you may experience flu-like symptoms as the immune response builds. Also, there is roughly a 10% chance they will get the correct strain of influenza in the vaccine for any given year. I don't get flu shots, for what it's worth."
I agree with this "The Covid-19 virus has NEVER been isolated".
And i agree "it cannot be mandated, nor can you be force to be a part of this experiment."
This i find highly questionable "There are also significant effects on blood components (as seen in the J&J vaccine mostly) that can kill quite suddenly (ie: blood clot in the brain)." I mean who is telling us this? the same lying main stream media? is it possible J&J is the equivalent to the cabal in the covid vax venue as Trump is in the political venue? dig real deep and ask yourself why couldn't this be the case?
i would ask that we try to start with a clean slate and a realization of how manipulated our realities can become based upon our willingness to trust in sources we maybe shouldn't, and in some cases trusting in sources we should trust but recognizing even they can be duped.
i am not here to tell you or anyone that i know anything to be absolutely true, so if i choose my words improperly please understand that i realize there's always reason for some doubt even if it's only miniscule. instead a attempt to think critically and as a result i can often prove myself wrong, or someone else can, but in any event being wrong doesn't bother me. it instead keeps me humble.
i would start with asking, has trump lied to his supporters? my answer is no. and I'm not referring to campaign rhetoric such as Mexico paying for the wall which i think it truly tried to accomplish and may have to some extent, but meaningful statements and promises.
why would trump choose to only lie about this one significant matter? and what consequences would it have if he then became known as the guy that lied but "only when he decided it was for our own good"? i don't believe trump would lie and if he did it would be detrimental and go against everything he claims to stand for and the heart and soul of our community which recognizes that honesty is the utmost sign of one's character.
so if trump didn't lie, how can he possibly say the "vaccine" is safe? does, or perhaps more accurately "did", he have the ability through known and unknown unilateral presidential powers to do things for the sake of the country? i think so and he's said as much about these powers out loud when he was recognized as president by the entire country.
if he had such awesome powers could he have essentially forced the big pharmas through these powers and through 1 key officer to issue a covid vax that was actually the prior years flu vax or something of the like? people to ignorant to wake up yet that get the covid vax feel bullet proof (and i know some of these people personally) and those not taking it realize it's bullshit. trump would then know he's not killing anyone, or at least not any idiot that wouldn't have received the regular flu shot anyway.
vaers is easy to fake harms whether by the design of trump and the other white hats or by warped people just looking to scare people. i just can't come up with any other reasonable explanation for trump telling his supporters it's safe. there's no logic in it being some code wink wink that he realizes we realize not to get it and to hell with non supporting Americans. that's not trump and not god
i don't know of any real vax harms and i know lots of ignorant fools that have gone and got the jabs. any reports either aren't directly from a reliable source or they seem as if they could be from patriots acting the part as part of the scare Q says is necessary
my 2 cents anyway fren
VAERs are, if anything, being under-reported. They are not "faked".
And I know people in the industry who work on mRNA treatments foe certain rare diseases. Thrombocytopenia and protein-related side effects are prevalent. These are the exact reasons these drugs don't make it to market. Too dangerous, too much risk for too little gain. Yet these "vaccines" did not have to prove themselves. I am not trusting blind info from "big pharma", I am NOT trusting the information they aren't telling us from poorly run studies. Huge difference.
Anti-vax or not, getting this injection is pure stupidity.
if you are to free your mind from the prison that we've all been in for so long it starts with humility and recognizing how little we actually know. my screen name is based on a famous quote attributed to Socrates that reads along the lines of "i now know I'm intelligent because i know i know nothing", or something to that effect.
i know that i don't know if vaers is over reported , under reported or accurate but my theory suggests it's over reported.
you state with such certainty that you know it's under reported. we, like the sheep we seek to wake up need to avoid our own confirmation biases.
just my opinion fren and i say so with love