Jesuits are always visible and always changing. During the 18th century they got so visible that the papacy suspended the whole order for decades. They’re always in cat-and-mouse games with the Catholic Church, and turnaround Is fair play. Now one of them is the Pope. I’d call that a change.
I don't know about that. My mom went to a Jesuit institution in the 60s and 70s and they were always cra cra. People have thought that the Jesuits were up to no good since at least the Enlightenment.
Interesting. Trump went to Fordham 1964-66. My husband received 9 years of Jesuit education—HS, BS, and MA. High school in Ohio 1963-67. Georgetown U 1967-72. I worked at GU for a year while he got his MA. Even though there were one or two Jesuits at both schools who were off the wall, throughout those years in general the admin and profs were liberal but not crazed.
I agree that Jesuits have had a dodgy reputation almost from their founding, but after the early 70s they jumped off the cliff and over the shark. Now we have a collectivist Jesuit pope who denounces Americans while opening his hands for their money. I’m from northern Ohio. No Catholic I know who lives there has any use for him.
Maybe your mom got an early taste of what was forthcoming ...
Yup even that.
The Jesuits have changed—radically—since Trump went to Fordham.
They didn't change they just became less invisible
Jesuits are always visible and always changing. During the 18th century they got so visible that the papacy suspended the whole order for decades. They’re always in cat-and-mouse games with the Catholic Church, and turnaround Is fair play. Now one of them is the Pope. I’d call that a change.
I don't know about that. My mom went to a Jesuit institution in the 60s and 70s and they were always cra cra. People have thought that the Jesuits were up to no good since at least the Enlightenment.
Interesting. Trump went to Fordham 1964-66. My husband received 9 years of Jesuit education—HS, BS, and MA. High school in Ohio 1963-67. Georgetown U 1967-72. I worked at GU for a year while he got his MA. Even though there were one or two Jesuits at both schools who were off the wall, throughout those years in general the admin and profs were liberal but not crazed.
I agree that Jesuits have had a dodgy reputation almost from their founding, but after the early 70s they jumped off the cliff and over the shark. Now we have a collectivist Jesuit pope who denounces Americans while opening his hands for their money. I’m from northern Ohio. No Catholic I know who lives there has any use for him.
Maybe your mom got an early taste of what was forthcoming ...