There it is right there. They are desperately trying to figure out a way to circumvent the 2nd and only scrape past the 4th. Why? Because when they finally do away with the 4th if we are still armed we WILL fight back. You gotta take the guns away first... then you can throw away all the other rules.
This is the problem in UK right now. Very few firearms means the police/gov just do whatever the hell they like. They police speech and make insane WuFlu rules. Does anyone seriously believe if 30+ million UK citizens(half... 2011 census 63,182,178) owned an AR and hand hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo combined that the UK police would be doing the stupid shit they are doing right now? Hell no. They would be terrified of a massive uprising.
There is a reason why they still have NG "securing" DC. They are terrified we will 1776 their asses strait into a noose. And we have the fire power to do it.
Thanks for your perspective, I enjoyed it. Made me think of something I’ve contemplated a few times though.
I like the Brits and the Irish, they have strong blood. They’re not afraid to have a scuffle or skirmish with the police, especially when they’re in numbers and having fun haha.
But the UK police are mostly unarmed too. Would the citizens push back if the police were armed and willing to fire? Would the police be as intrusive if the people were armed?
I’ve always liked the quote “An armed society is a polite society.”
The UK police have teams that function sort of like our SWAT teams. They are armed. So if say 10-20 guys got together armed up with hunting rifles and really stood up to them they would end up slaughtered. Same thing with fighting them hand to hand. The police break out the fire hoses and less lethal stuff making it impossible to win the fights that matter.
Now compare that to the Bundy Ranch standoff. a few hundred people half of which were armed tot he teeth sent 50+ HEAVILY armed Federal agents home with their tails between their legs without a shot being fired. Everyone their on both sides knew it didn't matter who won the fight... if just one shot was fired and someone got hit every rancher for 500 miles was going to end up with a rifle in his hands. All hell would have broken lose. So the feds left. They were utterly defeated. And later in court Bundy won most of his cases. Sure they got stupid later, but that's another story.
The Bundy's were in the right that one time and they got some popular support so they won. You think that would happen in the UK? Don't delude yourself. In the UK the little guy gets no support from his neighbors other than lip service and just gets crushed by the system. The gov controlled media doesn't talk about it, and anyone that's too loud on social media catches a charge of some kind, but you know its happened. No one helps that poor farmer out because they all feel helpless. Why? Because they have NO power even close to what the government has. They don't have guns. Even if they do its a double barrel 12 gauge or a bolt action rifle with enough ammo to just get themselves killed.
The government is in charge and doesn't fear the people AT ALL. Why should they? Throw in a little election fraud and they are not free. Its all an illusion. Its slavery with invisible chains.
So you can abuse the 2nd amendment. But only if you dont abuse the 4th to do it.
There it is right there. They are desperately trying to figure out a way to circumvent the 2nd and only scrape past the 4th. Why? Because when they finally do away with the 4th if we are still armed we WILL fight back. You gotta take the guns away first... then you can throw away all the other rules.
This is the problem in UK right now. Very few firearms means the police/gov just do whatever the hell they like. They police speech and make insane WuFlu rules. Does anyone seriously believe if 30+ million UK citizens(half... 2011 census 63,182,178) owned an AR and hand hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo combined that the UK police would be doing the stupid shit they are doing right now? Hell no. They would be terrified of a massive uprising.
There is a reason why they still have NG "securing" DC. They are terrified we will 1776 their asses strait into a noose. And we have the fire power to do it.
Thanks for your perspective, I enjoyed it. Made me think of something I’ve contemplated a few times though.
I like the Brits and the Irish, they have strong blood. They’re not afraid to have a scuffle or skirmish with the police, especially when they’re in numbers and having fun haha.
But the UK police are mostly unarmed too. Would the citizens push back if the police were armed and willing to fire? Would the police be as intrusive if the people were armed?
I’ve always liked the quote “An armed society is a polite society.”
The UK police have teams that function sort of like our SWAT teams. They are armed. So if say 10-20 guys got together armed up with hunting rifles and really stood up to them they would end up slaughtered. Same thing with fighting them hand to hand. The police break out the fire hoses and less lethal stuff making it impossible to win the fights that matter.
Now compare that to the Bundy Ranch standoff. a few hundred people half of which were armed tot he teeth sent 50+ HEAVILY armed Federal agents home with their tails between their legs without a shot being fired. Everyone their on both sides knew it didn't matter who won the fight... if just one shot was fired and someone got hit every rancher for 500 miles was going to end up with a rifle in his hands. All hell would have broken lose. So the feds left. They were utterly defeated. And later in court Bundy won most of his cases. Sure they got stupid later, but that's another story.
The Bundy's were in the right that one time and they got some popular support so they won. You think that would happen in the UK? Don't delude yourself. In the UK the little guy gets no support from his neighbors other than lip service and just gets crushed by the system. The gov controlled media doesn't talk about it, and anyone that's too loud on social media catches a charge of some kind, but you know its happened. No one helps that poor farmer out because they all feel helpless. Why? Because they have NO power even close to what the government has. They don't have guns. Even if they do its a double barrel 12 gauge or a bolt action rifle with enough ammo to just get themselves killed.
The government is in charge and doesn't fear the people AT ALL. Why should they? Throw in a little election fraud and they are not free. Its all an illusion. Its slavery with invisible chains.