Dr Judy :
https://wearethene.ws/notable/220526
Anon finds references for Suamin and Autism
- Suramin and Autism Suramin is a 100-year-old drug developed to treat African sleeping sickness and river blindness. Though it has been investigated for other diseases, including cancer, it is not approved for any therapeutic use in the United States. However, a small, randomized clinical trial conducted by Robert Naviaux, MD, PhD , professor of medicine, pediatrics and pathology, and colleagues at University of California San Diego School of Medicine have found that a single intravenous dose of suramin produced dramatic, but transient, improvement of core symptoms of autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Currently, there are no drugs approved for treating the core symptoms of ASD.
More broadly, the trial findings support the “cell danger response theory,” which posits that autism and other chronic conditions are fundamentally driven by metabolic dysfunction—and thus treatable. Naviaux and his co-authors propose larger, longer clinical trials to assess suramin (or similar drugs) as an ASD treatment. …
https://health.ucsd.edu/news/topics/suramin-autism/pages/default.aspx
- '''Autism and Suramin in the Time of COVID-19' May 13, 2020 — Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) is a complicated condition with multiple causal factors. At the most basic level, we believe ASD is the result of a multisystem cellular response to environmental and genetic stresses. Called the cell danger response, it results in over-release of ATP, the fundamental carrier of energy. Too much ATP signaling disrupts normal functioning in many types of cells, including how neurons communicate and work together.
Suramin is a century-old drug used to treat African sleeping sickness or trypanosomiasis. It works by inhibiting ATP signaling. In animal studies and in a small Phase I/II clinical trial completed in 2017, we reported that suramin produced dramatic reductions in classic ASD symptoms, such as social abnormalities and learning disabilities. These improvements were temporary, and disappeared in about 8 weeks after the single dose of suramin wore off. We are now in development of a second, larger clinical trial. Progress toward this trial has been slow but steady, no surprise given the complexity of ASD and the need to advance this novel approach carefully, fully supported by empirical evidence and best scientific practices.
Like labs around the world, we have not been immune from the effects of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. It has caused some delays and complications. Nonetheless, we expect to have all approvals in place to launch the second trial in spring of 2021.''
https://health.ucsd.edu/news/topics/Suramin-Autism/Pages/COVID-19-Response.aspx https://archive.is/wip/6i9KE
- Updates at Dr. Naviaux website https://naviauxlab.ucsd.edu/
Not sure about the fir, I think cedar was one of the ones to avoid, according to Mike Adams? There's a lot of people selling them online, probably more expensive than usual, right now. You can also buy "pine straw" in bales from Lowe's or whatever but I don't think the dead needles are the right ones to use.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fresh+white+pine+needles+for+tea
Star anise was the other big source for the shikimic acid, and you can just buy pounds of that online. 2 lb for $25 here,
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/regal-whole-star-anise-2-lb/102708413.html
https://www.google.com/search?q=chinese+star+anise%2C+buy+in+bulk
https://www.google.com/search?q=chakra+phool%2C+buy+in+bulk
Looks like it's cheaper by the Indian name but there'd be shipping costs and whatever else.
The suramin would probably have to be by prescription, it's a manufactured drug, not extracted from anything? Thought it was similar to the shikimic acid from what Mike Adams said, but it's a totally different chemical,
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Shikimic-acid#section=2D-Structure
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Suramin#section=2D-Structure
https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1756-3305-3-15
I thought there was suramin in the pine tea, am I recalling that aspect wrong?
I know the red cedar has a lot of medicinal properties and is used in tea, maybe the cedar referenced is a different type. Hmmm so much to learn. Thanks again for the links.
I don't know for sure, only going by what other people are saying, basically. But I went back and listened to the Mike Adams thing again,
https://www.brighteon.com/7c129e86-7e2b-47a7-bc74-dd19621e4042
At 20:25 he starts talking about suramin, "antidote has been known by the elite for almost a hundred years" and "it was originally designed from the extract of pine needle oil." He's reading from an article, at 22:25 "this article says that the whole herbal source, the whole extract, is superior to the single compound, suramin, because the needle possesses a full complement of phytonutrients."
Before that, he's talking about pine needle tea and suramin both, makes it sound like they're the same. If you look online now, there's a lot of people saying it's extracted from pine needle oil, looks like the same quote is being used everywhere. But, I tried searching only up to the beginning of this year and found this,
https://livepine.com/products/red-pine-needle-oil-2oz
"Red Pine Needle Oil 2oz provides you best health related benefits. It contains shikimic acid which is one of the key constituents in making Suramin, and other safe natural products for human health."
So Mike Adams says it was designed from an extract of pine needle oil, and this page says shikimic acid is used in making it, again from the pine oil. It doesn't sound like it's actually found in the needles themselves.
I tried looking for something on how the drug was developed but didn't find anything. Found this though,
https://mockingbirdmeadows.com/2021/05/11/pine-needle-tea-suramin-and-covid-shots/
"Further, to say that they were part of the compounds that built Suramin is a bit of a stretch. A piece of the molecular structure of something that was derived from pine oil was the “starting point” for the synthesis of Suramin."
So there's another opinion on the internet, basically. Next bit there sounds like it might be something to look into?
"If you choose not to use Suramin, there is a possible plant alternative- and that is kudzu (Peuraria montana var. lobata). Kudzu root is readily available, invasive even! It looks as though it inhibits the P2X7 purinergic receptor just as Suramin does. Whether or not that is the exact same action of Suramin that we would be looking for in the case of spike proteins I’ll leave to someone else who would like to dive into that particular rabbit hole."
Great dive. Hopefully sleeping on it will help the understanding