I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic school. I was an altar boy and I had the entire Mass memorized.
P.S. Let me get this straight. You mean to tell me because I didn't watch your video and was able to provide a counter argument to its claims, that translates to me being intellectually lazy.
Have you ever considered the fact you could be wrong? I did. I was confirmed as a Catholic and baptized by immersion when I came to my senses and began reading my Bible instead of sticking with tradition.
I can't reply to your reply because the comment thread can't go any deeper, so will reply here-
"Paul illustrated what tradition is: “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed” (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you” (1 Cor. 11:2).
Maybe if you weren't so Catholic, you'd actually read your Bible and know these things.
bwahahahahaha!
I bet you'd like to ignore the part of your Bible that talks about tradition.
You're just going to pretend it isn't there, or what?"
The word in 1 Corinthians 11:2 translated as traditions is the Greek word παράδοσις (paradosis) which means in this context-
a giving over which is done by word of mouth or in writing, i.e. tradition by instruction, narrative, precept, etc.
*objectively, that which is delivered, the substance of a teaching*
*of the body of precepts, esp. ritual, which in the opinion of the later Jews were orally delivered by Moses and orally transmitted in unbroken succession to subsequent generations, which precepts, both illustrating and expanding the written law, as they did were to be obeyed with equal reverence*
If you eat bacon or go to church on Sunday, you're not sticking with the traditions Paul's referring to. Your Catholic.com article even mentions the people in the crowd were Jews at a Jewish synagogue, and it still goes over your head exactly what that means.
I avoid pork and shellfish due to my studies of actual Biblical traditions as opposed to Roman Catholic traditions. The Catechism has nothing to say about that. You're accusing me of what you yourself are doing. You wouldn't even know 1 Corinthians existed if it wasn't for that Catholic.com article if you're like 99% of Catholics I knew growing up.
Someone wasn't properly Catechized or you're lying...and now you try to scandalize me? If you were Catholic, you would know how important Tradition is to the Catholic faith.
So I just told you I was raised Catholic, and rejected Catholicism after actually reading my Bible.
How does choosing the Word of God over Catholic tradition equate to not knowing how important tradition is to the Catholic faith? In fact, one's rejection of Catholicism naturally involves choosing the truth over tradition.
How exactly am I scandalizing you by disagreeing with you? Did I call you a Reddit-tier logician?
And as far as your threat there will be hell to pay, Yahweh is a loving God.
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Maybe if you weren't so Catholic, you'd actually read your Bible and know these things.
So I just told you I was raised Catholic, and rejected Catholicism after actually reading my Bible.
The Bible cannot exist apart from the Catholic Church. In its origins and its formulation, in the truths it contains, in its careful preservation over the centuries and in the prayerful study and elucidation of its mysteries, Scripture is inseparable from Catholicism.
Paul illustrated what tradition is: “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed” (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you” (1 Cor. 11:2).
Maybe if you weren't so Catholic, you'd actually read your Bible and know these things.
bwahahahahaha!
I bet you'd like to ignore the part of your Bible that talks about tradition.
You're just going to pretend it isn't there, or what?
I'm out of my league when I've actually read the entire Catechism? I'm not a Catholic yet it's on my bookshelf.
What about the Monita Secreta? Do you have a copy or even know what it is without doing an Internet search?
And as far as claiming I'm out of my league, here's a sentence from your Catholic.com article-
The Bereans, we’re told, were mainly Jews (and some Greeks), not Christians, and they even had a Jewish synagogue.
All Christians worshipped at synagogues in those times. The Scriptures were the Old Testament at that time and there was only one place to study them (books were costly when they were handwritten), which was a synagogue.
So, no, I don't reject Paul. In fact, he teaches the story of salvation as found in the Old Testament. The Book of Hebrews is a masterpiece.
In fact, you're the one who disagrees with Paul. Paul's message to the Romans contains something you need to hear, with your talk about the Jews having killed Christ.
Romans 11:16-26
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gczaBogop0g&list=PLOtKxMklQeXbXpwe4_Xk9vru9WGQJvXHK&index=14
22:37 literally discusses all of this, to include the Jewish Encyclopedia.
You can't be bothered to learn the truth?
How intellectually lazy.
More ad hominems. That's all you've got.
I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic school. I was an altar boy and I had the entire Mass memorized.
P.S. Let me get this straight. You mean to tell me because I didn't watch your video and was able to provide a counter argument to its claims, that translates to me being intellectually lazy.
Have you ever considered the fact you could be wrong? I did. I was confirmed as a Catholic and baptized by immersion when I came to my senses and began reading my Bible instead of sticking with tradition.
You didn't provide a single credible counter argument.
If you were Catholic, you would know how important Tradition is to the Catholic faith.
https://www.catholic.com/search?q=tradition
Someone wasn't properly Catechized or you're lying...and now you try to scandalize me?
Whew! There will be hell to pay.
I can't reply to your reply because the comment thread can't go any deeper, so will reply here-
"Paul illustrated what tradition is: “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed” (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you” (1 Cor. 11:2).
bwahahahahaha!
I bet you'd like to ignore the part of your Bible that talks about tradition.
You're just going to pretend it isn't there, or what?"
The word in 1 Corinthians 11:2 translated as traditions is the Greek word παράδοσις (paradosis) which means in this context-
a giving over which is done by word of mouth or in writing, i.e. tradition by instruction, narrative, precept, etc.
If you eat bacon or go to church on Sunday, you're not sticking with the traditions Paul's referring to. Your Catholic.com article even mentions the people in the crowd were Jews at a Jewish synagogue, and it still goes over your head exactly what that means.
I avoid pork and shellfish due to my studies of actual Biblical traditions as opposed to Roman Catholic traditions. The Catechism has nothing to say about that. You're accusing me of what you yourself are doing. You wouldn't even know 1 Corinthians existed if it wasn't for that Catholic.com article if you're like 99% of Catholics I knew growing up.
So you DO follow tradition? So which is it? You follow tradition or you don't?
Uh no, he was not talking about food laws.
So I just told you I was raised Catholic, and rejected Catholicism after actually reading my Bible.
How does choosing the Word of God over Catholic tradition equate to not knowing how important tradition is to the Catholic faith? In fact, one's rejection of Catholicism naturally involves choosing the truth over tradition.
How exactly am I scandalizing you by disagreeing with you? Did I call you a Reddit-tier logician?
And as far as your threat there will be hell to pay, Yahweh is a loving God.
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Maybe if you weren't so Catholic, you'd actually read your Bible and know these things.
The Bible was compiled by Catholics.
The Bible cannot exist apart from the Catholic Church. In its origins and its formulation, in the truths it contains, in its careful preservation over the centuries and in the prayerful study and elucidation of its mysteries, Scripture is inseparable from Catholicism.
Paul illustrated what tradition is: “For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures. . . . Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed” (1 Cor. 15:3,11). The apostle praised those who followed Tradition: “I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you” (1 Cor. 11:2).
bwahahahahaha!
I bet you'd like to ignore the part of your Bible that talks about tradition.
You're just going to pretend it isn't there, or what?
Oh let me guess, you disagree with Paul and you'll tell me Paul was a shill for teaching TRADITION...
Not by Scripture Alone - https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/not-by-scripture-alone
lol you're out of your league.
I'm out of my league when I've actually read the entire Catechism? I'm not a Catholic yet it's on my bookshelf.
What about the Monita Secreta? Do you have a copy or even know what it is without doing an Internet search?
And as far as claiming I'm out of my league, here's a sentence from your Catholic.com article-
The Bereans, we’re told, were mainly Jews (and some Greeks), not Christians, and they even had a Jewish synagogue.
All Christians worshipped at synagogues in those times. The Scriptures were the Old Testament at that time and there was only one place to study them (books were costly when they were handwritten), which was a synagogue.
So, no, I don't reject Paul. In fact, he teaches the story of salvation as found in the Old Testament. The Book of Hebrews is a masterpiece.
In fact, you're the one who disagrees with Paul. Paul's message to the Romans contains something you need to hear, with your talk about the Jews having killed Christ.
Romans 11:16-26
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The natural branches = Jews
The wild branches = Gentiles
Wild branches grafted in = Gentile believers
Looky, looky, shifting goal posts again?!
What about tradition? Are you just going to ignore what he teaches on tradition?
I love how this turned from "it's the Jesuits!" and when you couldn't prove that, you go on to shit on the Church Jesus Christ established on Earth.
Please try to follow the bouncing ball.
TRADITION is Biblical. Rejecting it is anti-Biblical.