He's been advertising for months that he has these PCAPS and he was going to show them to us this week. If you really had absolute proof of a crime, would you advertise that you had them before they were made public? I think not. Perhaps what he has is not PCAPS but something completely different and he's been sending blackhats on a wild goose chase for months looking for PCAPS.
Perhaps the data that he showed us with the before and after server images are the goods we should be focusing on. He has an elected county official that stands by them and is a witness to the coverup. What if those images are enough to prove that fraud occurred? Maybe CO will be the first state to decertify their election. That would be a hoot.
Tina Peters is a hero. She was not afraid, she knows she's right and she was fearless.
Uhm, no. The PCAP's were at the event. They're highly technical. You're welcome to capture the data from the videos he had running of the hexadecimal. The experts on-site are the ones who got to really analyze the data hands-on. The fact no one claimed the $5 million is the proof that Mike's data is legit.
https://nitter.net/ErrataRob/status/1425987272894255106#m
This technical Libertarian attended the even and explains that the pcaps were not delivered. The explanation given is that Dennis Montgomery was the source of the pcaps and was part of Mike’s team, but he missed the event at the last minute because of health issues. Then throw in the Larry Johnson article in TGP and it gets really messy.
tl;dr: The nitter guy is a bad actor trying to discredit Mike. He talks a good game, but he exposes himself. Further, to someone qualified in such tech, it is pretty clear that this guy is full of you know what and likely not competent to perform the analysis he claimed to attempt. I intended to thoroughly dissect his thread, but I eventually lost patience with it and consider a full analysis to be a total waste of time. Thanks for linking it, though. I like to consider as much as I can of whatever versions of the truth are floating around.
Your nitter guy said, "FYI: nobody is going to win the $5 million. It's impossible to disprove election fraud. It's only possible to demonstrate that claimed evidence fails to prove it." This demonstrates that he did not even know what the requirements to claim the prize money were. Specifically, the money was for anyone who could prove that the PCAP's were not from the 2020 election. There could be fraud or no fraud and yet the PCAP's be legitimately from the 2020 election or not. Those two propositions are not related. (Update: He admits he got the rules wrong in post 10.)
He also said, "8/ Here’s a pic looking backwards. Btw, I’ll be the guy wearing a mask, because as you know I’m an internet troll and this is the sort of thing I do." This may be nothing, but I think I remember Mike identifying one of the bad actor infiltrators as being "the guy in the mask" or similar. Idk...
Further, "9/ Before this week, the things Mike Lindell posted were not recognizable as "packet-captures". This is what they normally look like. It's not required to look like this, but it's the level of detail I'll be getting into." The image he shows, to the bottom left, is hexadecimal -- EXACTLY LIKE WHAT MIKE LINDELL HAD POSTED.
"12/ Everyone is friendly and nice. Which is what I expected. We like to demonize our opponents, but really, they are almost always reasonable, kind hearted people -- even if in our own opinion they are wrong. On both sides." Curious that he identifies attendees as Mike's event as "our opponents", don't you think?
"17/ they have scrolling hexdumps. For one thing they scroll too fast to read, and for another, they are too blurry to read, and lastly, even experts can’t generally read hexdumps without decoders." I can read the hex from the image he posted of the screens at the event. If he is actually there as an authorized, credentialed cyber expert, there is a separate area where he accesses the PCAP's. The screens are more for show. You could pull data from the screens, but he is correct that it would be very inefficient.
"18/ The reason why the question “what’s the source of data” is so important is because we know that media reports of vote tallies where highly inaccurate, the media made lots of accidental mistakes." This is a lie. I'm increasingly convinced this guy is a bad actor, and I don't trust him at all. The media reported numbers are from the Edison reporting system that is plugged into the official voting system. When votes flipped on live TV, that is because they were being flipped in the machines. It is not "accidental mistakes" on the part of the media.
"20/ "they work for LeadStories? fact checkers? shame on them!!! .... they are the enemies of the people"
"That's me!!! That's me!!!! I'm not feeling ashamed, though." And he straight up admits he is a bad actor, dishonest, lying piece of excrement!
"28/ So what they gave us were these "HEX.txt" files, which when decoded (
xxd -r -p filename) produces .rtf files. One of the RTF files contains a table of IP address, the others contain something in an unknown character set." That "unknown character set" is most likely because this clown is in over his head and not properly interpreting the data."31/ The delay is explained by a bunch of things going wrong, such as the guy who was a source of data getting a stroke." After several attempts to deflect from his own incompetence and blame it on the event coordinators, he said the previous. This claim of his comes from a debunked fakenews propaganda article from the Wastington Times. At the very end of that same article is a retraction and a quote from Mike's attorney that the alleged source and claims are completely bullshit.
"34/ So I got some straight answers from Spider:
Here is what you'll find way down at the bottom of that article after you click to read more (it looks like you've finished already -- by design!): "Kurt Olsen, a lawyer on Mr. Lindell’s team said there were multiple sources of the data that Mr. Lindell claims to have, and did not confirm that Mr. Mongtomery was the source of the data. He also clarified that the $5 million challenge has not been canceled and that Mr. Merritt would not be privy to that information."
"Clarification: The article previously described Mr. Merritt as Lindell’s lead cyber expert. Mr. Merritt is a cyber expert on the red team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, and does not work directly for Mr. Lindell."
And I can't be bothered to waste any more of my time reading this disinfo agent's horse shit analysis. I'm sorry you wasted your time. The guy is clearly only interested in sewing misinformation about Mike's data. He's probably one of the infiltrators, like a CIA asset. This is to be expected regarding highly technical claims. It is too easy for ass holes like this clown to sound like he knows what he's talking about to laypeople while completely misrepresenting reality. To a trained observer, his grift is pretty transparent, but not many people understand technology well enough to see through his lies.
The bottom line is that, if anyone there could prove the data was not from the 2020 election, then they'd be $5 million richer right now. I have not seen the data, myself, so I cannot personally verify it one way or the other. However, I trust Mike, and the reaction of these various bad actors and the lying media looks like further confirmation that Mike has been vindicated.
Thanks for the digging. It feels like a dead end for now in that the public doesn’t get the data, and the details about the team and the sources of data won’t be made known. Trump said, “We have it all,” so it seems plausible that they have the data. Mike is a trustworthy guy.
That's not how it works. PCAPs cannot just be typed into notepad and analyzed.
I'm actually an authority on the matter. I will try briefly to correct your misunderstands.
I could scratch the PCAP data in the sand of a beach with a twig and, if you knew what you were doing, you could dissect from there. Granted, that would not be the most efficient way to do it. The PCAP's were mainly available for the people in attendance at the event, particularly those who had appropriate credentials relevant to such data analysis. Among the reasons the data hasn't been made more readily available is the fact that we're talking about 37 TB of data. That is a MASSIVE amount of data and would cost a lot of money to host for everyone in the world to possibly download. And why bother when only an elite few with proper training/understanding can even make any sense of the data dump? In light of this reality, Mike streamed hexadecimal representations of the data during the event and on his sites. I'd like to see him release it as a web torrent, because I would like to have a look at the data, myself, as I actually know how to go about analyzing it.
To further explain, computers work only with bits represented as 0's and 1's. You can open a photograph or an executable in something like Notepad, if you like. However, how you look at digital data strongly affects how useful that data is and how easily you can work with it. Rarely is Notepad an effective tool for data analysis. But, for example, if I had all the PCAP's as hexadecimal numbers in a Notepad file, I could EASILY write a script to convert that ASCII text data to whatever format is most conducive to the analytical task at hand. This is because hexadecimal is just a convenient way of representing binary, and the PCAP's are ultimately just binary data that is only meaningful when viewed as PCAP's.
Hopefully this has clarified your understanding of the matter. It is a very complex topic, and it is to be expected that lay people will be inclined to many misunderstandings surrounding it.