So, to give you the counterpoint to the arguments I already see implied here...
Yes, this is probably true, and no, it's not surprising. Vaccinated people can "get" the virus without being infected by it. Healthcare workers who are around COVID-infected people all the time are almost certainly going to be carrying higher viral loads due to their workplace, but will not be infected or sick due to the vaccine.
They wear masks, gloves, and do a lot of disinfecting at hospitals, especially now, which will hopefully prevent this from being a problem.
But there is really no ammo for an anti-vax narrative here. There is no way to prevent healthcare workers from gaining this higher viral loads. Without the vaccine, they'd still be just as exposed, but they'd be far more likely to be sick from the virus instead of just carrying it. We need healthcare workers, so there's not really a way around this problem except to do what we're doing, which is use masks and distancing as much as possible to reduce the likelihood of infecting both vaccinated and unvaccinated people in hospitals.
Whether you believe it or not, that's going to be the response you get from medical professionals if you bring up this study.
It's also worth noting this study was done in Vietnam.
Here's the study you can read yourself so you don't have to rely on other people interpreting this for you.
I had the vaccine in January and have had no issues so far, nor have there been any issues with any of the people at my workplace who got it at that same time. I will keep you updated if that changes.
That would be a valid argument if there was the kind of evidence for vaccine problems that there are for smoking problems, but VAERS isn't it. It even tells you it isn't it. And without VAERS being a valid source for vaccine damage, I haven't seen much outside of anecdotal evidence on this particular position. But I'm always happy to take a look.
How would these vaccinated health care workers contract a viral load, if by your own admissions are using gloves, gowns, masks, etc? If that PPE isn’t prevent them from being exposed to the virus then what exactly is the point of wearing it
PPE is partially for their protection, but much more for the protection of everyone around them, in cases like this.
Think about surgeons. You think they wear masks during surgery because they’re afraid of your body parts? Nope. They don’t want to drip sweat into your open body cavity. They don’t want piece of what they just ate to show up on your next CT scan.
If someone has a large viral load sitting in their nostril, then putting a mask over their nose will hopefully prevent most of it from leaving their nose and showing up in you as the patient.
Again, that’s the argument. That I know a lot of you won’t accept. But most of what a doctor does as far as the constant hand washing and masks and such, even BEFORE this virus, was to protect their patient.
A guy who sees fifty sick people a day is absolutely taking measures to make sure that anything he picked up from the last patient doesn’t become his next patient’s problem.
The body getting sick means that the body is under attack. It doesn’t prove that it’s fighting back effectively.
A house being on fire doesn’t mean that the fire department is on the way, or even intends to show up.
If you have the virus and aren’t sick from it, it means that the virus can’t get in for whatever reason. So it’s just sitting doing nothing, because it can’t figure out how to infect you and hoping to jump ship for a better host. Which means you become a carrier.
They wear masks, gloves, and do a lot of disinfecting at hospitals, especially now, which will hopefully prevent this from being a problem.
None of which has shown ANY DIFFERENCE in outcome.
Mareks Disease is where this goes. It's a leaky vaccine because it was never intended to grant immunity. Leaky vaccines change the evolutionary pressures on the viruses, basically giving them a home to grow as they please.
This is highschool level biology shit. I fucking skipped 90% of high school, graduated with a 1.8 GPA becasue I only went to test days, and STILL managed to learn about this. What's yours, and everyone else's, excuse?
So... telling me that you have a 1.8 GPA and skipped high school just lends credence to the notion that you didn't actually learn this thing well enough to even stand on the same stage as people who have decades of postgraduate education and experience on this exact subject. You just think you did because you literally don't know what you don't know about this.
As in, this sounds exactly like what an anti-Q infiltrator troll would say to make the rest the Q movement look ridiculous and uneducated about the positions it's passionate about. I don't care much for infiltrator tactics. It's unnecessary.
So, to give you the counterpoint to the arguments I already see implied here...
Yes, this is probably true, and no, it's not surprising. Vaccinated people can "get" the virus without being infected by it. Healthcare workers who are around COVID-infected people all the time are almost certainly going to be carrying higher viral loads due to their workplace, but will not be infected or sick due to the vaccine.
They wear masks, gloves, and do a lot of disinfecting at hospitals, especially now, which will hopefully prevent this from being a problem.
But there is really no ammo for an anti-vax narrative here. There is no way to prevent healthcare workers from gaining this higher viral loads. Without the vaccine, they'd still be just as exposed, but they'd be far more likely to be sick from the virus instead of just carrying it. We need healthcare workers, so there's not really a way around this problem except to do what we're doing, which is use masks and distancing as much as possible to reduce the likelihood of infecting both vaccinated and unvaccinated people in hospitals.
Whether you believe it or not, that's going to be the response you get from medical professionals if you bring up this study.
It's also worth noting this study was done in Vietnam.
Here's the study you can read yourself so you don't have to rely on other people interpreting this for you.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733
I had the vaccine in January and have had no issues so far, nor have there been any issues with any of the people at my workplace who got it at that same time. I will keep you updated if that changes.
I've been smoking for 15 years. No issues so far nor is there any sign of cancer. Smoking is obviously safe.
That would be a valid argument if there was the kind of evidence for vaccine problems that there are for smoking problems, but VAERS isn't it. It even tells you it isn't it. And without VAERS being a valid source for vaccine damage, I haven't seen much outside of anecdotal evidence on this particular position. But I'm always happy to take a look.
How would these vaccinated health care workers contract a viral load, if by your own admissions are using gloves, gowns, masks, etc? If that PPE isn’t prevent them from being exposed to the virus then what exactly is the point of wearing it
PPE is partially for their protection, but much more for the protection of everyone around them, in cases like this.
Think about surgeons. You think they wear masks during surgery because they’re afraid of your body parts? Nope. They don’t want to drip sweat into your open body cavity. They don’t want piece of what they just ate to show up on your next CT scan.
If someone has a large viral load sitting in their nostril, then putting a mask over their nose will hopefully prevent most of it from leaving their nose and showing up in you as the patient.
Again, that’s the argument. That I know a lot of you won’t accept. But most of what a doctor does as far as the constant hand washing and masks and such, even BEFORE this virus, was to protect their patient.
A guy who sees fifty sick people a day is absolutely taking measures to make sure that anything he picked up from the last patient doesn’t become his next patient’s problem.
It means you’re a carrier.
The body getting sick means that the body is under attack. It doesn’t prove that it’s fighting back effectively.
A house being on fire doesn’t mean that the fire department is on the way, or even intends to show up.
If you have the virus and aren’t sick from it, it means that the virus can’t get in for whatever reason. So it’s just sitting doing nothing, because it can’t figure out how to infect you and hoping to jump ship for a better host. Which means you become a carrier.
None of which has shown ANY DIFFERENCE in outcome.
Mareks Disease is where this goes. It's a leaky vaccine because it was never intended to grant immunity. Leaky vaccines change the evolutionary pressures on the viruses, basically giving them a home to grow as they please.
This is highschool level biology shit. I fucking skipped 90% of high school, graduated with a 1.8 GPA becasue I only went to test days, and STILL managed to learn about this. What's yours, and everyone else's, excuse?
So... telling me that you have a 1.8 GPA and skipped high school just lends credence to the notion that you didn't actually learn this thing well enough to even stand on the same stage as people who have decades of postgraduate education and experience on this exact subject. You just think you did because you literally don't know what you don't know about this.
As in, this sounds exactly like what an anti-Q infiltrator troll would say to make the rest the Q movement look ridiculous and uneducated about the positions it's passionate about. I don't care much for infiltrator tactics. It's unnecessary.