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Who here is an ex-liberal since Biden took office, or does anyone know an ex-Biden supporter as of late?
posted 4 years ago by AndrewJaqqson 4 years ago by AndrewJaqqson +19 / -0

Just curious, have you learned yet?

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– ARandomOgre 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I agree that the media isn't always to be trusted. But I don't accept that just because the media takes one side, it is automatically the wrong side based on them holding that position.

Q believes the earth is round.

I believe the earth is round.

I don't believe the earth is round on the basis of Q believing the earth is round.

The fact that Q believes the earth is round has absolutely no bearing on how I arrive at my conclusion about the roundness of the earth.

I don't agree with Q on most things, but I don't disagree with Q simply because he is Q.

The fact that Q and I agree on something despite me not seeing Q as a trustworthy source on any information does not cause me any dissonance. Because I don't much care what Q has to say about anything.

I also don't much care what the media has to say about Trump.

I disagree with Trump because of the things he says and does, not because the media has reported that Trump says and does bad things.

Luckily for me, Trump was able to bypass the media's "authority" through Twitter and numerous live briefings and through his own confirmation (or failure to deny) those things the media reported on him.

So I was able to not like Trump because Trump was able to talk directly to me about the things he believed and wanted to do, and I didn't like most of it.

Even though I also don't like the media and don't trust them to collectively act as a neutral source on any particular topic.

Mindlessly believing what the media says to you allows you to be manipulated.

Mindlessly taking the position opposite to what the media is telling you also allows you to be manipulated.

It's extremely possible to end up on the same "side" as the media on an issue for reasons completely unrelated to whatever motivation a media outlet has for taking the side that it takes.

Just like Q and I are on the same side when it comes to a round earth, despite neither of us really caring what the other has to say about it.

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– FreeAsF_ck 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Blah blah blah. You voted Biden. You're right up there with the flat earthers in my book.

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– ARandomOgre 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's a very black-and-white way of seeing the world. Binary ways of thinking about complex issues are way too easy to be enjoyable or productive.

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– FreeAsF_ck 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

And then some things are just black and white. You use a lot of words to say a lot of nothing.

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– ARandomOgre 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Perhaps that's true.

But perhaps it's true of Q as well.

Luckily, all we need to do is sit around and wait to see whether it's me or Q that has more accurately reflected reality with all the words we've both thrown at Q supporters.

I have time to wait.

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