Look up the "Jennifer Project" and or project Azorian absolutely insane project.
1968 Soviet diesel sub w/ 3x early R-21 missiles that can be nuclear armed goes missing... but the Americans know where.
K-129s sinking is picked up by a US surveillance network called... no joke, SOSUS... that forms a 1300 mile ring around Hawaii and the west coast. Problem is the boat sunk in 17,000+ ft of water.
Clowns in America in conjunction with Howard Hughes build the Glomar Explorer, a custom built recovery ship to pick up the lost Soviet sub from the ocean floor. All done in the open under cover story of ocean floor mining, interesting look at how clowns can spin a domestic news story in a country they can not technically operate in...
Due to all of the various cover stories and the very nature of what was done, I am very suspect about what was reported to have been recovered. One claim, the 1st story publicly available, the whole sub broke away during recovery and all was lost. Years later this is modified to part of the sub fell away, but recovered the front 1/3 including physical evidence, torpedo's, many bodies of soviet sailors and the boats bell that was returned to the Soviets along with a recording of the Soviets Sailors being buried with respect and customs befitting their home country.
Great read on the subject "The Jennifer Project" by Clyde Burleson.
Speculation time....
K-129 had missed 2 x radio checks scheduled prior to sinking.
Speculation i've run across is that the k-129 did not sink where reported, outside of it's missile range to Hawaii, but only 700 miles or so offshore.
Pics of the K-129 as is rested on the ocean floor apparently showed one of the 3 missile tubes open, indicating that it was at launch depth when it suffered whatever casualty sunk her.
I don't have any good source for last 2 bits there, but if true can only point to a few possible outcomes.
For some reason they tried to launch a missile at Hawaii but without final fail safe from either the Captain or whomever the missile didn't launch, but self destructed... along with the boat.
Or what if it really was a Hunt For Red October like scenario. A defector handing the boat to the US. Perhaps the ship was really in shallow waters unlike what was reported, captain tried to use a Nuclear emergency on board to get men off boat but... problem and it sinks in recoverable waters.
Who knows, crazy story. Submarines are terrifying and fascinating.
Reasonably certain that anything recovered from K-129 was not in working order. Perhaps fissile material can be saved and re-purposed, wouldn't put the clowns above it. However, would there not be an easier way?
If it can be recovered, yes the fissile material can be reused. The French are one of the largest reprocessers of spent nuclear fuel and make a mint doing it. Fuel from subs would actually be easy to clean up compared to "spent" fuel from a power plant. The only reason the US doesn't reprocess is, get this, green peace. Green Peace would rather have us strip mine huge swaths of land for more raw fuel than purify and reuse the spent fuel. Leftists are idiots.
Possibility for recovered nuclear warheads to be re-purposed is a bit un-nerving. Wonder how many are un accounted for, and how close we have come to a Sum of all fears type scenario.
Detonating a nuke underwater would be useless as the ocean would absorb the shockwave and the heat way faster than it would when detonated in the air. That's why most american and british nuclear tests were performed underwater or in holes digged in the desert. Best use, imho, would be as a dirty bomb to poison a major water supply with radiation.
Except not really. Nuclear torpedoes and depth charges were carried by USN ships from 1960s through 1980s, although were never used in combat. Look up W-44 warhead.
Look up the "Jennifer Project" and or project Azorian absolutely insane project.
1968 Soviet diesel sub w/ 3x early R-21 missiles that can be nuclear armed goes missing... but the Americans know where.
K-129s sinking is picked up by a US surveillance network called... no joke, SOSUS... that forms a 1300 mile ring around Hawaii and the west coast. Problem is the boat sunk in 17,000+ ft of water.
Clowns in America in conjunction with Howard Hughes build the Glomar Explorer, a custom built recovery ship to pick up the lost Soviet sub from the ocean floor. All done in the open under cover story of ocean floor mining, interesting look at how clowns can spin a domestic news story in a country they can not technically operate in...
Due to all of the various cover stories and the very nature of what was done, I am very suspect about what was reported to have been recovered. One claim, the 1st story publicly available, the whole sub broke away during recovery and all was lost. Years later this is modified to part of the sub fell away, but recovered the front 1/3 including physical evidence, torpedo's, many bodies of soviet sailors and the boats bell that was returned to the Soviets along with a recording of the Soviets Sailors being buried with respect and customs befitting their home country.
Great read on the subject "The Jennifer Project" by Clyde Burleson.
Speculation time....
K-129 had missed 2 x radio checks scheduled prior to sinking.
Speculation i've run across is that the k-129 did not sink where reported, outside of it's missile range to Hawaii, but only 700 miles or so offshore.
Pics of the K-129 as is rested on the ocean floor apparently showed one of the 3 missile tubes open, indicating that it was at launch depth when it suffered whatever casualty sunk her.
I don't have any good source for last 2 bits there, but if true can only point to a few possible outcomes.
For some reason they tried to launch a missile at Hawaii but without final fail safe from either the Captain or whomever the missile didn't launch, but self destructed... along with the boat.
Or what if it really was a Hunt For Red October like scenario. A defector handing the boat to the US. Perhaps the ship was really in shallow waters unlike what was reported, captain tried to use a Nuclear emergency on board to get men off boat but... problem and it sinks in recoverable waters.
Who knows, crazy story. Submarines are terrifying and fascinating.
Reasonably certain that anything recovered from K-129 was not in working order. Perhaps fissile material can be saved and re-purposed, wouldn't put the clowns above it. However, would there not be an easier way?
If it can be recovered, yes the fissile material can be reused. The French are one of the largest reprocessers of spent nuclear fuel and make a mint doing it. Fuel from subs would actually be easy to clean up compared to "spent" fuel from a power plant. The only reason the US doesn't reprocess is, get this, green peace. Green Peace would rather have us strip mine huge swaths of land for more raw fuel than purify and reuse the spent fuel. Leftists are idiots.
Possibility for recovered nuclear warheads to be re-purposed is a bit un-nerving. Wonder how many are un accounted for, and how close we have come to a Sum of all fears type scenario.
Theres more to read about it in Blind Mans Bluff by Sherry Sontag.
Detonating a nuke underwater would be useless as the ocean would absorb the shockwave and the heat way faster than it would when detonated in the air. That's why most american and british nuclear tests were performed underwater or in holes digged in the desert. Best use, imho, would be as a dirty bomb to poison a major water supply with radiation.
Except not really. Nuclear torpedoes and depth charges were carried by USN ships from 1960s through 1980s, although were never used in combat. Look up W-44 warhead.
Lemme get a couple of those and make fishing great again.
"What's for supper?" "The boyz went fishing today..." "Why does the fish glow like that? It tastes funny too, but not like mecury."
https://youtu.be/b10GDan734U
If the CIA has it, they helped build it