Hand ballot recount: more or less in line with what the county reported. In fact, Cyber ninjas found a couple hundred less trump votes, and about a hundred more biden votes
Electronic systems: logs and images are missing, passwords reused, all in all not keeping the electronic system as tight as they were supposed to
Signature matching: Shiva determined they would've submitted a few thousand fewer ballots for signature verification, basically due to there being no signature in the box it was supposed to be in
Various other issues: a number in the 10k-20kish range (iirc) of ballots were from primarily people who had moved prior to the election, minorly from dead voters (around 200), and other stuff in between.
Shiva and Cyber ninjas said maybe theres an explanation for some of these things (clerical errors, etc) but they dont know, presumably they want more info from the county. So if some things have justifications but others dont, and there are bad ballots, then among the bad ballots, they didn't still say how many of them were for Biden vs for Trump (as far as I've seen). So, looking like they're suggesting ways to tighten up the security, maybe even referring some workers for violating procedure, which is good. But i havent heard anything constituting "we found X votes for biden shouldnt have counted, therefore, trump actually won".
Legally it doesn't matter who the fraudulent votes were for, the fact that there were fraudulent votes means the whole election can be thrown out. Fraud vitiates everything per the SC ruling of US vs Throckmorton 1878.
To what end? So we have another election? And then Trump wins that one but there were fraudulent ballots for biden, so the fact that there are fraudulent votes means you throw that one out too??
Bottomline: it definitely matters who the fraudulent votes were for. Take out the fraudulent ballots and see who won.
Summary:
Hand ballot recount: more or less in line with what the county reported. In fact, Cyber ninjas found a couple hundred less trump votes, and about a hundred more biden votes
Electronic systems: logs and images are missing, passwords reused, all in all not keeping the electronic system as tight as they were supposed to
Signature matching: Shiva determined they would've submitted a few thousand fewer ballots for signature verification, basically due to there being no signature in the box it was supposed to be in
Various other issues: a number in the 10k-20kish range (iirc) of ballots were from primarily people who had moved prior to the election, minorly from dead voters (around 200), and other stuff in between.
Shiva and Cyber ninjas said maybe theres an explanation for some of these things (clerical errors, etc) but they dont know, presumably they want more info from the county. So if some things have justifications but others dont, and there are bad ballots, then among the bad ballots, they didn't still say how many of them were for Biden vs for Trump (as far as I've seen). So, looking like they're suggesting ways to tighten up the security, maybe even referring some workers for violating procedure, which is good. But i havent heard anything constituting "we found X votes for biden shouldnt have counted, therefore, trump actually won".
Legally it doesn't matter who the fraudulent votes were for, the fact that there were fraudulent votes means the whole election can be thrown out. Fraud vitiates everything per the SC ruling of US vs Throckmorton 1878.
To what end? So we have another election? And then Trump wins that one but there were fraudulent ballots for biden, so the fact that there are fraudulent votes means you throw that one out too??
Bottomline: it definitely matters who the fraudulent votes were for. Take out the fraudulent ballots and see who won.