Ok first of all I am not vaccinated nor will I be getting jabbed...but here is the issue:
My In-laws are going to be celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary in Hawaii this coming summer...currently to go to Hawaii you have to have proof of full COVID vax...at least according to my father in law.
For the first time since the beginning of the vax program 8ish months ago my wife of 28 years allowed me to read to her a few of the proofs that the Vax is poison and certainly not safe or effective...She brought up that you could find anything to support your view on the internet...I mentioned the million dollar challenge...peer reviewed...stats from the CDC, FDA and other "credible" in her mind sources
I am looking for published reports that claim the vax is in fact safe and effective...I do not believe they exist...I think the lamestream media puppets what Fraudchi and big pharma no matter how obvious the lie but I challenged her to look for one. I am trying to find studies that claim "scientific" findings with stats that the vax's currently available are efficacious...
I am very concerned that if this crap show continues my wife will end up getting the Vax in order to go to her parent's celebration and then I will lose my wife of 28 years too soon due to vax complications a couple years down the road...
Thanks.
Sure.
The vax is a suicide pact.
Does your wife want to attend her parent's 50th or experience her own? It's a simple choice really.
Thank her parents for putting compelling participation in the suicide pact.
Yeah, exactly...that is why I am trying like crazy to sway her and inform her of the dangers...and have arguments against whatever she is able to dig up. I see the trend is more and more exposure of the fraud that is the VAX so hopefully it will be obvious enough to her and the rest of my unvaxxed family and friends that no one else will risk the jab
ok, with that in mind, facts do not matter. We like to think we are rational humans that make decisions based on logic; but we are deluded and do not understand our own motivations.
We ALL make decisions based on emotion. Then we use logic to justify our positions ( this is where confirmation bias comes in).
So don't bother spending time understanding her logical justifications and focus your time and energy understanding her emotional state and emotional reasons for her decisions.
To sway her, spend time looking at the videos of people that are experiencing adverse events. What is their lived experience like? How are they being treated by the medical professionals?
You are going to have to deal with a double whammy. She will be emotionally upset by the fact that all of her family may suffer adverse events and not want to leave them alone. And then is the cognitive dissodence of, "oh shit you really think they want us dead?"
Perhaps the best emotional argument is that if everyone she loves may suffer an adverse event isnt it better to be healthy so we are in a position to support them.
Good luck
I am right there with you. My wife and kids and I all got covid a few weeks ago, none of us vaxxed. It was difficult, we had symptoms, but what was most difficult was the way it slowly spread through the house causing school quarantines in our home for a long time. Due to this inconvenience my wife says she is getting the vax. I told her we have natural immunity now and the vax is not safe. Anway, since we had covid the medical community says you have to wait 90 days before getting the vax. I have 90 days to convince her not to get it. I haven't started much yet, I don't want her to throw her guard up. I just keep feeding info as I see it. Like the study at the top of the 1st page showing asymptomatic vaxxed are way more likely to spread covid than asymptomatic non vaxxed.
It sucks, the fear porn and information war is real and it hits everyone. I don't want to lose my wife. I also don't want her to get it, making my oldest son the next to go, he is 16. I feed him anti vax info all the time, he is an athlete, told him about the tennis player whose season ended due to vax issues a ncaa golfer who was hospitalized from the vax.
The trouble is my wife keeps reading the local news fear porn showing anyone who died from covid. I tell her all those stories purposefully don't give enough information for them to be meaningful. It seems to be a constant battle.
I am also worried if she gets vaxxed, am I at risk of getting that shit in me if we have sex. If I can find info on that, I will tell her she is ending our sex life too. I am not allowing that poison into my body. I will die first.
Good luck!
this letter has all the additional info I need to combat her arguments I believe...and we just went through COVID with her and the ki9ds so I am glad I have 80 additional days left to convince her. I am hoping that everything comes clear before spring 2022 so Hawaii removes the requirement
<a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral">Spartacus COVID letter</a>
thanks for the kink, sounds like you and I are in the same boat
http://vaersanalysis.info/2021/09/24/vaers-summary-for-covid-19-vaccines-through-9-17-2021/
This is great information, I will add it to my redpill arsenal. I know the Vax is poison...I know the VAERS system gives proof of that...and the estimates are that it under-reports by a factor of around 100 so there have been closer to 150k deaths due to the Vax...I need to know if there are any studies that attempt to show the opposite...I have been looking and all I can find is propaganda. I assume there will not be any because any serious scientific study will only prove what we already know that the jab is poison...but I want to be able to get ahead of any information my wife or father in law might present to me.
Are there ships going there and back? Do they mandate the jab?
There might be but I believe right now it is the State that is requiring any tourists to be vaccinated before entry. The event is still 8 months away so I am hoping the truth keep sgetting more and more clear over the coming months.
I think that might be false. You can just get a test 72 hours before arriving. This website says a vaccine isn't required to travel to Hawaii, only to escape quarantine. A test 72 hours before arriving to Hawaii will also exempt you from quarantine.
I mean, if you want research favorable to the vaccines, you can find it…
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2104983
Thank you! This is what I wanted to look at. These are the ones I am going to be confronted with and I want to have credible rebuttals for the "science" contained. Thanks again I genuinely appreciate it.