As a veteran, I encourage all of my still-active buddies to take the discharge if they can. Something most don't know is that once you've fulfilled your first 4-6 yr enlistment, they Cannot take your veteran benefits (VA/ Post 9-11 GI Bill). I know because I was thrown a 9 member squad of soldiers being Chaptered out of the military for various offenses (DUI-Drug use-pattern of misconduct etc. with other than/ dishonorable discharge). I spent a year doing nothing but chaptering soldiers out, working closely with JAG lawyers and Chapter regulations.
If you aren't SF/SEAL etc. and haven't signed a contract that states you have to pay pack your training costs (and I'm even wondering if they can do That after a certain time period) they can't do shit to your enlistment benefits once your first enlistment contract is fulfilled..
If you haven't fulfilled your contract, then you've only invested 0+ years (Less than 5 usually) and it's not in your best interest to give two shits about those benefits. Get college money another way. It's not worth your life and health to care that much.
I applaud them attempting to sue, but I don't think it's going anywhere. As someone below pointed out, You can't sue the military. It'll probably get thrown out.
One of the reasons I got out (out of the 5, 457, 892 reasons) is that the COC will lie through their teeth to soldiers every chance they get. They know most soldiers won't take the time, or be motivated enough to actually look up what is/ isn't, true, what is allowed and what isn't under AR's and UCMJ. It's an exhaustive, complicated and dense legal code.
Every fucking day SGM/1SGs and NCO's are lying to their soldiers. Every. Fucking. Day, over things from incredibly weird bullshit, up to major regs like how much leave you can have if a family member dies. I don't doubt for one single second they're lying about this mandate and what they're allowed to do and if they're allowed to take your benefits, or charge you for training. They can threaten and bitch all they like, but once JAG gets involved, they're always put back in their lane and told what is real, and what is simply their abusive control fantasy.
Lastly, I encourage everyone in the military to get out. Now. This gov't is not only illegitimate, they're are a fascist regime with Marxist paint splashed all over them. We gave an oath to the Constitution--not a President, not a gov't administration--and if you stay in, you WILL be asked to do things against that oath. If not today, next week or next month. Look at Australia. Take the Get while the Getting is Good, and on their dime. Do not be that Guy who will stand before a Tribunal one day and claim you were "Just following orders". Maintain your Honor, your Integrity and your personal courage and remember what you raised your right hand and swore to do. Against ALL enemies--foreign and DOMESTIC.
As a veteran, I encourage all of my still-active buddies to take the discharge if they can. Something most don't know is that once you've fulfilled your first 4-6 yr enlistment, they Cannot take your veteran benefits (VA/ Post 9-11 GI Bill). I know because I was thrown a 9 member squad of soldiers being Chaptered out of the military for various offenses (DUI-Drug use-pattern of misconduct etc. with other than/ dishonorable discharge). I spent a year doing nothing but chaptering soldiers out, working closely with JAG lawyers and Chapter regulations.
If you aren't SF/SEAL etc. and haven't signed a contract that states you have to pay pack your training costs (and I'm even wondering if they can do That after a certain time period) they can't do shit to your enlistment benefits once your first enlistment contract is fulfilled..
If you haven't fulfilled your contract, then you've only invested 0+ years (Less than 5 usually) and it's not in your best interest to give two shits about those benefits. Get college money another way. It's not worth your life and health to care that much.
I applaud them attempting to sue, but I don't think it's going anywhere. As someone below pointed out, You can't sue the military. It'll probably get thrown out.
One of the reasons I got out (out of the 5, 457, 892 reasons) is that the COC will lie through their teeth to soldiers every chance they get. They know most soldiers won't take the time, or be motivated enough to actually look up what is/ isn't, true, what is allowed and what isn't under AR's and UCMJ. It's an exhaustive, complicated and dense legal code.
Every fucking day SGM/1SGs and NCO's are lying to their soldiers. Every. Fucking. Day, over things from incredibly weird bullshit, up to major regs like how much leave you can have if a family member dies. I don't doubt for one single second they're lying about this mandate and what they're allowed to do and if they're allowed to take your benefits, or charge you for training. They can threaten and bitch all they like, but once JAG gets involved, they're always put back in their lane and told what is real, and what is simply their abusive control fantasy.
Lastly, I encourage everyone in the military to get out. Now. This gov't is not only illegitimate, they're are a fascist regime with Marxist paint splashed all over them. We gave an oath to the Constitution--not a President, not a gov't administration--and if you stay in, you WILL be asked to do things against that oath. If not today, next week or next month. Look at Australia. Take the Get while the Getting is Good, and on their dime. Do not be that Guy who will stand before a Tribunal one day and claim you were "Just following orders". Maintain your Honor, your Integrity and your personal courage and remember what you raised your right hand and swore to do. Against ALL enemies--foreign and DOMESTIC.