She said that she thought one particular required test, at very cold conditions, "was stupid." It was in the contract to test at very low temperatures because Navy ships often encounter very cold conditions....submarines in particular. Steel can become very brittle at low temperature conditions, sort of like the Titanic did in the waters where it encountered an iceberg.... but never mind that, she thought the test "was stupid." Such a genius.
She had one more job to do, she was paid to do it, but didn't because it was "stupid".
Sorry, not buying it.
BTW, the Titanic steel was tested at room temp for impact (this was maybe 40-50 years back), and it was found to be brittle. The article I read had a picture of 2 steel samples, one from the same batch of steel used in the Titanic (I don't recall the source), and modern ship grade steel (at the time of testing). The Titanic sample broke, the modern sample bent. Big difference.
"She had one more job to do, she was paid to do it, but didn't because it was "stupid"."
Not buying what? Sounds like the exact excuse I see a ton of people at my own workplace do.
imo She's just incriminated herself for fraud at minimum. And I don't know how the law works in this matter, but I would agree at least in my opinion she's guilty of treason. EVEN IF she totally meant this excuse sincerely.
I generally like to take people at their word when their own word incriminates themselves.
Not for any other reason than Occam's razor though. If there's evidence suggesting she did this intentionally, I'd totally hear it.
But "intentionally" can mean a lot of things. She did it for money. She did it in the interests of some country or entity other than the USA. She did it because she genuinely thought it was stupid and she did this as some sort of weird protest against stupid military decisions in her opinion.
What did she intend?
And is that intention more than merely intending to defraud whomever pays her to do these tests (company she works for, contract, my apologies I don't know the details)?
I just know that WHATEVER she intended.... this excuse "it's stupid" is incriminating in-and-of-itself. Nobody paid her to decide if something is "stupid" they paid her to do it and she did not. And because the consequences are life and death of those that protect the lives of our country- that's treason.
I'm just not sure what you mean by "you don't buy it" maybe you meant all that already or you have a different perspective.
Not buying the "it was stupid" excuse. Her job was metallurgical testing. She was paid to do it. Anyone who knows anything about metal knows temperature has a large impact on strength and the character qualities of the metal.
When confronted with the falsified results, Ms Thomas suggested that in some cases she gave metal positive results because she thought it was “stupid” that the Navy required the tests to be conducted at -100F (-70C), the Associated Press reports.
Dry ice is all it takes to get to -100* F. So it's not like it was going to take a huge effort to test as specified.
I get paid to do a job, and if I don't do it, I will be reprimanded, and I could be terminated.
So, did she not test because it was stupid, or because they knew it would fail? I think there is more to the story that we haven't seen yet.
She said that she thought one particular required test, at very cold conditions, "was stupid." It was in the contract to test at very low temperatures because Navy ships often encounter very cold conditions....submarines in particular. Steel can become very brittle at low temperature conditions, sort of like the Titanic did in the waters where it encountered an iceberg.... but never mind that, she thought the test "was stupid." Such a genius.
She had one more job to do, she was paid to do it, but didn't because it was "stupid".
Sorry, not buying it.
BTW, the Titanic steel was tested at room temp for impact (this was maybe 40-50 years back), and it was found to be brittle. The article I read had a picture of 2 steel samples, one from the same batch of steel used in the Titanic (I don't recall the source), and modern ship grade steel (at the time of testing). The Titanic sample broke, the modern sample bent. Big difference.
"She had one more job to do, she was paid to do it, but didn't because it was "stupid"."
Not buying what? Sounds like the exact excuse I see a ton of people at my own workplace do.
imo She's just incriminated herself for fraud at minimum. And I don't know how the law works in this matter, but I would agree at least in my opinion she's guilty of treason. EVEN IF she totally meant this excuse sincerely.
I generally like to take people at their word when their own word incriminates themselves.
Not for any other reason than Occam's razor though. If there's evidence suggesting she did this intentionally, I'd totally hear it.
But "intentionally" can mean a lot of things. She did it for money. She did it in the interests of some country or entity other than the USA. She did it because she genuinely thought it was stupid and she did this as some sort of weird protest against stupid military decisions in her opinion.
What did she intend?
And is that intention more than merely intending to defraud whomever pays her to do these tests (company she works for, contract, my apologies I don't know the details)?
I just know that WHATEVER she intended.... this excuse "it's stupid" is incriminating in-and-of-itself. Nobody paid her to decide if something is "stupid" they paid her to do it and she did not. And because the consequences are life and death of those that protect the lives of our country- that's treason.
I'm just not sure what you mean by "you don't buy it" maybe you meant all that already or you have a different perspective.
Not buying the "it was stupid" excuse. Her job was metallurgical testing. She was paid to do it. Anyone who knows anything about metal knows temperature has a large impact on strength and the character qualities of the metal.
Dry ice is all it takes to get to -100* F. So it's not like it was going to take a huge effort to test as specified.
I get paid to do a job, and if I don't do it, I will be reprimanded, and I could be terminated.
So, did she not test because it was stupid, or because they knew it would fail? I think there is more to the story that we haven't seen yet.