My conversation with a lib client went like this.

I explained to him my Brother, Sister in law just went to the hospital after dealing with covid for 10 days. They weren't getting better. Their oxygen levels got very low. They both took ivermectin for a week. He says I can't believe that people would take that stuff,  it's for animals. Goes on to say that we've just reached a milestone in pandemic deaths worldwide. Before he said another word I said, "are you talking about abortion? " He chuckled and went on to ask if they had been vaxxed. I said no, he said ,we are not going to reach herd immunity until everyone gets the Vax.  I explained to him how the definition of herd immunity has apparently changed. He questioned , "why wouldn't people take a readily available proven  cure for covid.  I said " FREEDOM". He responded ,it's got nothing to do with freedom.

I asked, should the government make people get an abortion ? He said,  "No, the government would never do that, asking, why would the government make people get an abortion? " 

I SAID,  "EXACTLY GOOD POINT."

By the way they were most reluctant to be hospitalized, but both had pneumonia.  Recieved  steroids of some sort, should be going home today. Highly pressured to take the jab. SAID NO!