Not too long ago, I read a Christian apologetics article that made similar arguments about the truth of Jesus Christ. Point was that his followers - the ones who started the church and had 1st hand knowledge- wouldn't have been taking a stand, subjecting themselves to torture and death, sacrificing comfortable, familiar lives, if his message and resurrection was a myth.
In no way trying to compare Q to religion or Jesus. Just saying the logic applies to the human experience and history!
What's even more interesting that before the resurrection, many of those same people did deny him, to spare their own lives. After the resurrection they decided that a fate worse than death would be to deny the true Christ.
So when people try to argue that people die for erroneous religious beliefs all the time, my retort is "People sometimes die for a lie they believe to be true, but they don't martyr themselves for something they know to be a lie.
Not too long ago, I read a Christian apologetics article that made similar arguments about the truth of Jesus Christ. Point was that his followers - the ones who started the church and had 1st hand knowledge- wouldn't have been taking a stand, subjecting themselves to torture and death, sacrificing comfortable, familiar lives, if his message and resurrection was a myth. In no way trying to compare Q to religion or Jesus. Just saying the logic applies to the human experience and history!
What's even more interesting that before the resurrection, many of those same people did deny him, to spare their own lives. After the resurrection they decided that a fate worse than death would be to deny the true Christ.
So when people try to argue that people die for erroneous religious beliefs all the time, my retort is "People sometimes die for a lie they believe to be true, but they don't martyr themselves for something they know to be a lie.
Came here to say this.
Well said.
We get it, and you are right to use the example of the martyrs for this issue. All the apostles but one were martyred for The Truth, i.e., Jesus.