No, we don't know the exact day. But that's not as important as spiritually observing His birth and death.
Look at the church near you. Do you think that's God's church? from one angle it is (everything is His). But from another angle (spiritual vs worldly) it's only a shadow of the true church (and even then it may not be because it's wordly and some bad stuff might go on there (and on the flipside holy things may go on there)).
You can get caught up in this but it's a snare in the world to take you away from the spiritual.
Yes, there's lots of worldly things surrounding Christmas (commercialism, etc), but to the spiritual it's a time to celebrate the birth of Christ (even if we don't know the exact day he was born), and unify in spirit to remember, and emulate his love, joy, peace, and share it to the fallen world.
If you want to cancel Christmas and Easter because of the worldly connections, be careful, because you risk severing the deeply spiritual meanings behind them. Instead, be quick to recognize the disconnects interjected by the world, and maintain steadfast focus on the spirituality behind it.
That's impossible. Christ is not in them and never was. I see that these are a god in your life but He will not suffer such idolatry and He sure as hell won't suffer any gods before Him.
We are called to be separate from the world and avoid being unequally yoked.
The world LOVES these holidays but the world also rejects and despises the things of God. Jesus said they would. If those holidays had any true spiritual significance, the world would hate them. How do you not realize this? Oh,that being given over to strong delusion thingy.
The world? I don't think you get to speak for the world. Whatever relationship someone has with God is between them and God alone. God doesn't need you to second guess him.
Anon, i'm dead to the world, i live for God and Christ. But i can tell you Christ is in Christmas. One year i heard the carols beign sung at the church, it was "Oh come all ye faithful" and it was so touching, it had to have been a spiritual experience and i felt very close to Him.
If i go to someone's house for Christmas and they have a christmas tree up, and we celebrate around the understanding we are celebrating Christ's birth, we get together to be close, i'm not going to break the spiritual connection and benefit that joy and happiness brings to start talking about how bad it is for them to have a christmas tree up in their house. That, to me, would just go against the whole spiritual nature of the moment, bringing in harsh judgement for wordly decoration, where joy and love and peace should be flourishing in the spirtual.
Boy, are you in for the shock of your existence. Calling evil good is not from the Holy Spirit. Not only have you been given over to strong delusion but the Lord has nothing to do with you. You're a poser. A loser.
If you think my judgement is harsh, you're in for a bad time.
Anon i've faced way worse. But, like someone else said, it's between me and God. And just to be clear i haven't called any evil good. But remember anon judge not lest ye be judged.
Hold up.
No, we don't know the exact day. But that's not as important as spiritually observing His birth and death.
Look at the church near you. Do you think that's God's church? from one angle it is (everything is His). But from another angle (spiritual vs worldly) it's only a shadow of the true church (and even then it may not be because it's wordly and some bad stuff might go on there (and on the flipside holy things may go on there)).
You can get caught up in this but it's a snare in the world to take you away from the spiritual.
Yes, there's lots of worldly things surrounding Christmas (commercialism, etc), but to the spiritual it's a time to celebrate the birth of Christ (even if we don't know the exact day he was born), and unify in spirit to remember, and emulate his love, joy, peace, and share it to the fallen world.
If you want to cancel Christmas and Easter because of the worldly connections, be careful, because you risk severing the deeply spiritual meanings behind them. Instead, be quick to recognize the disconnects interjected by the world, and maintain steadfast focus on the spirituality behind it.
We do know the day. Read "Jesus Christ our promised seed" victor paul weirwille
It will explain it better than me if you want to k ow.
That's impossible. Christ is not in them and never was. I see that these are a god in your life but He will not suffer such idolatry and He sure as hell won't suffer any gods before Him.
We are called to be separate from the world and avoid being unequally yoked.
The world LOVES these holidays but the world also rejects and despises the things of God. Jesus said they would. If those holidays had any true spiritual significance, the world would hate them. How do you not realize this? Oh,that being given over to strong delusion thingy.
The world? I don't think you get to speak for the world. Whatever relationship someone has with God is between them and God alone. God doesn't need you to second guess him.
"And you shall know them by their fruits."
You make a dangerous assumption. I speak what I'm given to speak and I don't give a damn about what you think.
I'm not second guessing God. What I'm doing is trying to help people understand why it's problematic.
Who are YOU to second guess the Lord? I'll tell you this, if the Lord is speaking through me then it's Him that you're in contention with.
If you can't handle the truth, well, that's too bad for you.
Anon, i'm dead to the world, i live for God and Christ. But i can tell you Christ is in Christmas. One year i heard the carols beign sung at the church, it was "Oh come all ye faithful" and it was so touching, it had to have been a spiritual experience and i felt very close to Him.
If i go to someone's house for Christmas and they have a christmas tree up, and we celebrate around the understanding we are celebrating Christ's birth, we get together to be close, i'm not going to break the spiritual connection and benefit that joy and happiness brings to start talking about how bad it is for them to have a christmas tree up in their house. That, to me, would just go against the whole spiritual nature of the moment, bringing in harsh judgement for wordly decoration, where joy and love and peace should be flourishing in the spirtual.
Boy, are you in for the shock of your existence. Calling evil good is not from the Holy Spirit. Not only have you been given over to strong delusion but the Lord has nothing to do with you. You're a poser. A loser.
If you think my judgement is harsh, you're in for a bad time.
Anon i've faced way worse. But, like someone else said, it's between me and God. And just to be clear i haven't called any evil good. But remember anon judge not lest ye be judged.