Look here not there! This is an, albeit obvious, attempt to pass the blame. Manufactures and Doctors need to be held accountable, the pharmacies would have never had this product to offer had it not been for its existence and those that pushed its use. I know a few people that have done time for prescription fraud, it happened before I knew them. They have told me that they would simply steal a RX pad from the doctors office or dental office and write as many non-refillable (important as a pharmacist would have caught on otherwise) prescriptions as they wanted. Then hit up all the pharmacies within a few mile radius using multiple people to fill the prescriptions and pick them up. There is no way that the pharmacies should be help liable for that, the doctors failed to protect sensitive material and failed to keep stock of their supply of prescription pads which would have alluded to fraud happening in the first place. Making their own institutions into pill mills. They should have had procedure in place to prevent such activity and failed to protect the community in their own capacity. These lawsuits will likely have NDAs attached that would make it impossible to sue anyone else after the fact while the Pharmacies would have insurance to cover the costs of any suit against them, as the Doctors would. However placing the blame on the pharmacy is a huge disservice to all of us as no "one" will receive the blame only the Corporations that are associated with them. The way this will work out is that everyone that had an actual hand in creating this disaster will be blameless under the law and only their shells will be required to pay up which they will get at a substantial discount considering the Corporation will be considered "one" against many. We have got to go for the Board of Directors of the Pharmacies if we want real results, as with the Doctors, Hospitals, Emergency Rooms and Dentists! We cannot continue to blame a building or the name of a building for the crimes of man!
I am as well, but it is LAW in the United States that corporations (the brick and mortar building) assume all blame and therefore the only party that is required to pay benefits to any victims of malfeasance by the corporation.
Imagine a cruise ship runs aground and destroys property. Now imagine taking the Ship to court and suing the Ship for damages. Strange analogy as the captain of the ship would have to suffer all blame sans technical problems. This is not the case with Corporations.
When Dupont made it's employees and neighbors sick using toxic chemicals and dumping toxic chemicals the Board of Directors (Dupont's Captains, if you will) were absolved of all guilt and the Corporation itself was sued. They sued the building and not the men controlling the actions and goings on of the building. You cannot arrest a building, though I would like to see someone try.
That's just plain bassackwards think'n. It's the responsibility of the end user. Billions tied up in all the assets of folks who made a bad choice and croaked as a result. Seize all their assets and distribute them to ADL and others who have been slandered!
If you are trusting of an ABC then I think you might like reddit better! Just a suggestion.
I love the logic though: The end users were not given the opportunity for informed consent therefore whatever laws they would have been beholden to are null and void as a contract cannot be formed without it (legally) (so like, more illegal activity from the manufactures) . This would be ok for me as well as it would further implicate the manufacturers in their crimes. The guise of a vested authority has played it's course and has failed magnificently for all to see. Slander is the least of their concerns, IMO. This only teaches people not to trust the vested authority and we know what comes after all trust is lost, do we not? Meanwhile blame will be shifted to all parties not responsible for damages related to the product, which is the opposite of justice. Funny we want to hit up the gun manufactures when there is a shooting but one of the largest pandemics to plague the world happens and it is suddenly the fault of the user only. Pick a side!
Good point. The manufacturers wouldn't make the crap if not for the demand. I'm all for shoot'n ever one of the plandemic planners in the arse if that's what you are suggesting. I say l right side first!
I mean, Pain Killers are nothing new and the need for them also isn't new. It is largely that the manufactures knew the likelihood of dependence forming from using the products and failed (on purpose) to mention all of the dangers.
If you go to the E.R. with a broken bone how likely are you to worry about what the paper you just signed actually says? I think that I would be more focused on trying to alleviate the pain. (no chance for informed consent) They do not tell the patients that coming off the pain killer is worse than the pain they are currently experiencing. So they have you sign away your rights before even getting treatment, knowing the possible dangers of the treatment and the high likelihood of dependence on the treatment. Like heroin users are not addicted to the heroin, they are addicted to not going through the withdrawals of not using heroin after they have already used it. The heroin dealers have a one up on the manufactures as they haven't had their users sign a document that would later incriminate the living hell out of them. Instead, these manufactures tweak the heroin just enough to call it something else then make patients sign documents that say that the patients cannot go after the manufactures if anything bad should happen using their product. Had they not known of the potential side effects they might have a pass however they knowingly inserted a highly addictive substance into the market with the desire to make money. Profits over people. Worse still is they managed it into the realm of vested authority, people that no one would have any reason to be suspicious of, your family doctor, and got them to push it without disclosing all of the side effects that they already knew about.. They are Fucked, my dude. Bad.
Look here not there! This is an, albeit obvious, attempt to pass the blame. Manufactures and Doctors need to be held accountable, the pharmacies would have never had this product to offer had it not been for its existence and those that pushed its use. I know a few people that have done time for prescription fraud, it happened before I knew them. They have told me that they would simply steal a RX pad from the doctors office or dental office and write as many non-refillable (important as a pharmacist would have caught on otherwise) prescriptions as they wanted. Then hit up all the pharmacies within a few mile radius using multiple people to fill the prescriptions and pick them up. There is no way that the pharmacies should be help liable for that, the doctors failed to protect sensitive material and failed to keep stock of their supply of prescription pads which would have alluded to fraud happening in the first place. Making their own institutions into pill mills. They should have had procedure in place to prevent such activity and failed to protect the community in their own capacity. These lawsuits will likely have NDAs attached that would make it impossible to sue anyone else after the fact while the Pharmacies would have insurance to cover the costs of any suit against them, as the Doctors would. However placing the blame on the pharmacy is a huge disservice to all of us as no "one" will receive the blame only the Corporations that are associated with them. The way this will work out is that everyone that had an actual hand in creating this disaster will be blameless under the law and only their shells will be required to pay up which they will get at a substantial discount considering the Corporation will be considered "one" against many. We have got to go for the Board of Directors of the Pharmacies if we want real results, as with the Doctors, Hospitals, Emergency Rooms and Dentists! We cannot continue to blame a building or the name of a building for the crimes of man!
I’m in favor of going after all of them, bring the whole corrupt rotten pyramid down
I am as well, but it is LAW in the United States that corporations (the brick and mortar building) assume all blame and therefore the only party that is required to pay benefits to any victims of malfeasance by the corporation.
Imagine a cruise ship runs aground and destroys property. Now imagine taking the Ship to court and suing the Ship for damages. Strange analogy as the captain of the ship would have to suffer all blame sans technical problems. This is not the case with Corporations.
When Dupont made it's employees and neighbors sick using toxic chemicals and dumping toxic chemicals the Board of Directors (Dupont's Captains, if you will) were absolved of all guilt and the Corporation itself was sued. They sued the building and not the men controlling the actions and goings on of the building. You cannot arrest a building, though I would like to see someone try.
That's just plain bassackwards think'n. It's the responsibility of the end user. Billions tied up in all the assets of folks who made a bad choice and croaked as a result. Seize all their assets and distribute them to ADL and others who have been slandered!
If you are trusting of an ABC then I think you might like reddit better! Just a suggestion.
I love the logic though: The end users were not given the opportunity for informed consent therefore whatever laws they would have been beholden to are null and void as a contract cannot be formed without it (legally) (so like, more illegal activity from the manufactures) . This would be ok for me as well as it would further implicate the manufacturers in their crimes. The guise of a vested authority has played it's course and has failed magnificently for all to see. Slander is the least of their concerns, IMO. This only teaches people not to trust the vested authority and we know what comes after all trust is lost, do we not? Meanwhile blame will be shifted to all parties not responsible for damages related to the product, which is the opposite of justice. Funny we want to hit up the gun manufactures when there is a shooting but one of the largest pandemics to plague the world happens and it is suddenly the fault of the user only. Pick a side!
Good point. The manufacturers wouldn't make the crap if not for the demand. I'm all for shoot'n ever one of the plandemic planners in the arse if that's what you are suggesting. I say l right side first!
I mean, Pain Killers are nothing new and the need for them also isn't new. It is largely that the manufactures knew the likelihood of dependence forming from using the products and failed (on purpose) to mention all of the dangers.
If you go to the E.R. with a broken bone how likely are you to worry about what the paper you just signed actually says? I think that I would be more focused on trying to alleviate the pain. (no chance for informed consent) They do not tell the patients that coming off the pain killer is worse than the pain they are currently experiencing. So they have you sign away your rights before even getting treatment, knowing the possible dangers of the treatment and the high likelihood of dependence on the treatment. Like heroin users are not addicted to the heroin, they are addicted to not going through the withdrawals of not using heroin after they have already used it. The heroin dealers have a one up on the manufactures as they haven't had their users sign a document that would later incriminate the living hell out of them. Instead, these manufactures tweak the heroin just enough to call it something else then make patients sign documents that say that the patients cannot go after the manufactures if anything bad should happen using their product. Had they not known of the potential side effects they might have a pass however they knowingly inserted a highly addictive substance into the market with the desire to make money. Profits over people. Worse still is they managed it into the realm of vested authority, people that no one would have any reason to be suspicious of, your family doctor, and got them to push it without disclosing all of the side effects that they already knew about.. They are Fucked, my dude. Bad.