If the deaths are underreported, I can’t just assume that’s it’s true without seeing the correct data. Just because Ron Johnson says it’s only 2% then I would want something to actually support that estimation.
That’s fortunate you didn’t know anyone who died from covid. Unfortunately I knew several people who weren’t as lucky. I also am well aware of breakthrough cases that can cause deaths. However the number of deaths that can be attributed to the vaccine is proportionally far lower than that of COVID
As for what the media says, I don’t really listen to or watch them, so I don’t see why it’s relevant. Lots of sensationalist shit gets put out there all the time. It’s not worth taking seriously. Do your own research and make your own informed decisions
That is another problem.. and I think the media is relevant. The media is what most of the people get their info from, lots of people will not do research like you or I. They have been caught lying over and over and it's always on the side of the democrats.. now knowing that and knowing that the democrats and the Media said to Not get the Trump vaccine then right when Trump left office said to get the Trump vaccine is quite odd to me. Something said to be so life saving and them changing there tune about it so quickly. If it was the same vaccine before and after Trump left office, why the change in Tune? And what is the Media's and Democrats beef with Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin? This is said by many doctors, including Dr. Zelenko to be the gun that delivers the zinc and other good stuff in to the cell.. ON the NIH's own website (table 2e) it has ivermectin as a valid drug in treating covid. Why the constant hatred and fighting towards doctors that prescribe this drug by the media and our government? I mean it's on their own website as a cure. Why are doctors losing their right to practice because they are showing these alternative treatments are working. Why are hospitals not being transparent about their own records on treating patients with the vaccine?
It's totally understandable to feel doubt! Can't argue with that, and I'll never blame you for feeling it. But the best you can do is take in the raw data and come to your own conclusions.
MSM has almost always had the motive to show the most dramatic stories in order to grab the attention of viewers, hence the popular phrase "if it bleeds, it leads." Tabloid journalism took off many years ago because sensationalized headlines grabbed the attention of people looking for juicy stories. So, it's understandable how so many attention grabbing headlines, especially about the omicron variant, can be confusing especially when the scare tactics end up not being true.
Best advice I can give is to sit slowly on the data that you come across. Listen, but verify with the sources you hear things from. If claims are being made that interest you, dig a bit deeper, learn as much as you can yourself instead of trusting the words of someone else. There's a lot of objective data you can take in that doesn't revolve around narrative, but is just black and white facts, and from there you can build your knowledge.
I think you are a great person to have these discussions with. You're asking the right questions, absolutely. There's a ton of info out there available to you. Just don't let feelings of doubt restrict you from looking up the information that can provide you answers.
I understand your comparison, and that’s fair. But someone with Dr in front of his name doesn’t mean he’s correct. I’ve had good doctors and I’ve had shitty ones. So, all said, I would prefer to see the data myself instead of hearing someone else’s interpretation.
That said, the data I trust is the CDC, and also my own personal experiences. I’ve shared before that nearly everyone I know has been fully vaccinated, several with boosters. Not a one of them have had any complications more than arm soreness and some fatigue the day after. So, all due respect, really difficult to believe that vaccines are harmful
I totally agree, I only know one mother that lost her daughter to covid even after being fully vaxed.. I also do not know one person that has died after getting covid without a vaccine. Early on I was seeing interview after interview with doctors completely baffled that they were being sent directions on how to fill out death certificates.. Something they have been doing forever.. I just have an issue with the death count. I may very well be wrong and it may turn out that Dr. Z, dr. Malone, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Luc Montagnier, Dr. Kory and many others are wrong as well.. but just because it's the CDC or NIH or it has a FDA approval doesn't mean shit either.
Does he mention what the actual numbers are in this video? I get that he’s talking about the official numbers being wrong, but what is his suppprtong evidence for that?
Yes he gets in to that. He gives the benefit of the doubt and says 20% is correct and then he gives the estimate of the real number of death by vaccine at that percentage. I am really enjoying this back and forth, if you can watch this interview and have a talk about it.. that would be great. I really feel this guy is being truthful but I can't get into his brain and see his true intentions... but Z does use actual data and papers to support his view.. He does talk about dr. luc montagnier alot. I don't know that guy either but I think Luc said that mass vaccination is terrible because it will just create variant after variant. If you think about Gibraltar, they are currently seeing a huge spike in the Delta... if Luc's theory is correct, it seems like that is what we are seeing in Gibraltar?
If the deaths are underreported, I can’t just assume that’s it’s true without seeing the correct data. Just because Ron Johnson says it’s only 2% then I would want something to actually support that estimation.
That’s fortunate you didn’t know anyone who died from covid. Unfortunately I knew several people who weren’t as lucky. I also am well aware of breakthrough cases that can cause deaths. However the number of deaths that can be attributed to the vaccine is proportionally far lower than that of COVID
As for what the media says, I don’t really listen to or watch them, so I don’t see why it’s relevant. Lots of sensationalist shit gets put out there all the time. It’s not worth taking seriously. Do your own research and make your own informed decisions
That is another problem.. and I think the media is relevant. The media is what most of the people get their info from, lots of people will not do research like you or I. They have been caught lying over and over and it's always on the side of the democrats.. now knowing that and knowing that the democrats and the Media said to Not get the Trump vaccine then right when Trump left office said to get the Trump vaccine is quite odd to me. Something said to be so life saving and them changing there tune about it so quickly. If it was the same vaccine before and after Trump left office, why the change in Tune? And what is the Media's and Democrats beef with Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin? This is said by many doctors, including Dr. Zelenko to be the gun that delivers the zinc and other good stuff in to the cell.. ON the NIH's own website (table 2e) it has ivermectin as a valid drug in treating covid. Why the constant hatred and fighting towards doctors that prescribe this drug by the media and our government? I mean it's on their own website as a cure. Why are doctors losing their right to practice because they are showing these alternative treatments are working. Why are hospitals not being transparent about their own records on treating patients with the vaccine?
Mkay. I’ve checked it out
It's totally understandable to feel doubt! Can't argue with that, and I'll never blame you for feeling it. But the best you can do is take in the raw data and come to your own conclusions.
MSM has almost always had the motive to show the most dramatic stories in order to grab the attention of viewers, hence the popular phrase "if it bleeds, it leads." Tabloid journalism took off many years ago because sensationalized headlines grabbed the attention of people looking for juicy stories. So, it's understandable how so many attention grabbing headlines, especially about the omicron variant, can be confusing especially when the scare tactics end up not being true.
Best advice I can give is to sit slowly on the data that you come across. Listen, but verify with the sources you hear things from. If claims are being made that interest you, dig a bit deeper, learn as much as you can yourself instead of trusting the words of someone else. There's a lot of objective data you can take in that doesn't revolve around narrative, but is just black and white facts, and from there you can build your knowledge.
I think you are a great person to have these discussions with. You're asking the right questions, absolutely. There's a ton of info out there available to you. Just don't let feelings of doubt restrict you from looking up the information that can provide you answers.
All the best to you! Have a good one!
Check this out for me...
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/
HEY YOU. 👋.. it's me again, could you help me with this?.. wouldn't mind your 2 cents.
https://greatawakening.win/p/140vt7MHS4/can-anyone-help-me-understand-th/
Yes, it is.
Yes its not accurate or it is old news?
I understand your comparison, and that’s fair. But someone with Dr in front of his name doesn’t mean he’s correct. I’ve had good doctors and I’ve had shitty ones. So, all said, I would prefer to see the data myself instead of hearing someone else’s interpretation.
That said, the data I trust is the CDC, and also my own personal experiences. I’ve shared before that nearly everyone I know has been fully vaccinated, several with boosters. Not a one of them have had any complications more than arm soreness and some fatigue the day after. So, all due respect, really difficult to believe that vaccines are harmful
I totally agree, I only know one mother that lost her daughter to covid even after being fully vaxed.. I also do not know one person that has died after getting covid without a vaccine. Early on I was seeing interview after interview with doctors completely baffled that they were being sent directions on how to fill out death certificates.. Something they have been doing forever.. I just have an issue with the death count. I may very well be wrong and it may turn out that Dr. Z, dr. Malone, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Luc Montagnier, Dr. Kory and many others are wrong as well.. but just because it's the CDC or NIH or it has a FDA approval doesn't mean shit either.
Does he mention what the actual numbers are in this video? I get that he’s talking about the official numbers being wrong, but what is his suppprtong evidence for that?
Yes he gets in to that. He gives the benefit of the doubt and says 20% is correct and then he gives the estimate of the real number of death by vaccine at that percentage. I am really enjoying this back and forth, if you can watch this interview and have a talk about it.. that would be great. I really feel this guy is being truthful but I can't get into his brain and see his true intentions... but Z does use actual data and papers to support his view.. He does talk about dr. luc montagnier alot. I don't know that guy either but I think Luc said that mass vaccination is terrible because it will just create variant after variant. If you think about Gibraltar, they are currently seeing a huge spike in the Delta... if Luc's theory is correct, it seems like that is what we are seeing in Gibraltar?