While I will agree that there is a lower limit to a viable "human civilization" I think there absolutely is an upper limit as well. It's a simple supply/demand thing. While I don't think we have hit that upper limit, I don't think unlimited growth is a solution to anything.
In addition, I do not see how we need more people to make human civilization "viable," as if it wasn't "viable" in the past when we had far fewer people, or isn't viable now with the number that we have.
Why don't we just stop worrying about the population problem, and let supply/demand take care of it.
He's making the same argument you are, except that he believes that upper limit is far beyond what the great reset folk currently think.
This clip is a bit short, but I've seen him speak about this matter before.
He believes in human ingenuity, that we will fix whatever problems we create and adapt. That's why he wants to be able to expand to an interstellar species, because as long as we remain on this planet, we are vulnerable to a mass extinction event. This isn't a doomer great reset type thing, it inevitably will happen, but current models have it so far off that we have plenty of time.
Seemed to me I recall something about 100,000 years something catastrophic may be in the mix, which is a far cry from "in 5 years the polar ice caps will melt and Obama's brand new mansion will be destroyed". We get to being interstellar by having more smart people. Might create a bunch of dumb people in the process, but there's work for them as well.
I don't see why we would need more than we have though. The problems we have aren't ones of a "lack of ingenuity" due to a "lack of population". The problems we have are that we live in The Matrix, and all of our ingenuity is micromanaged by the PTB. If we get rid of the PTB and find value in ourselves (we understand that we are the rulers of our own lives), all the problems will take care of themselves.
Our problem is not too few people, but a few thousand too many.
Is that true, though? The people who truly advance our knowledge of the universe are quite rare, and we don’t know how to make them appear. Playing the odds by having a hundred billion times our current population spread across the galaxy seems entirely reasonable to me. Interstellar distances also prevent any form of centralized elite, as multi-year travel times demolish any attempts at centralized control.
The people who truly advance our knowledge of the universe are quite rare, and we don’t know how to make them appear
I'm not sure you fully appreciate how long we have been suppressed. The reality, the history you believe in has almost nothing to do with Reality according to my investigations. History is a lie.
Playing the odds by having a hundred billion times our current population spread across the galaxy seems entirely reasonable to me
I have no problem becoming interstellar. I think that's a great idea. By all means, be fruitful and multiply, but the suggestion to do so, without first having the capacity to expand is putting the cart before the horse.
Interstellar distances also prevent any form of centralized elite, as multi-year travel times demolish any attempts at centralized control.
I'm not entirely sure that's true. I think the whole "FTL" thing may be suppressed tech.
What the actual fuck.
I don't know what to make of that.
While I will agree that there is a lower limit to a viable "human civilization" I think there absolutely is an upper limit as well. It's a simple supply/demand thing. While I don't think we have hit that upper limit, I don't think unlimited growth is a solution to anything.
In addition, I do not see how we need more people to make human civilization "viable," as if it wasn't "viable" in the past when we had far fewer people, or isn't viable now with the number that we have.
Why don't we just stop worrying about the population problem, and let supply/demand take care of it.
He's making the same argument you are, except that he believes that upper limit is far beyond what the great reset folk currently think.
This clip is a bit short, but I've seen him speak about this matter before.
He believes in human ingenuity, that we will fix whatever problems we create and adapt. That's why he wants to be able to expand to an interstellar species, because as long as we remain on this planet, we are vulnerable to a mass extinction event. This isn't a doomer great reset type thing, it inevitably will happen, but current models have it so far off that we have plenty of time. Seemed to me I recall something about 100,000 years something catastrophic may be in the mix, which is a far cry from "in 5 years the polar ice caps will melt and Obama's brand new mansion will be destroyed". We get to being interstellar by having more smart people. Might create a bunch of dumb people in the process, but there's work for them as well.
Make the Universe Great Again!
I don't see why we would need more than we have though. The problems we have aren't ones of a "lack of ingenuity" due to a "lack of population". The problems we have are that we live in The Matrix, and all of our ingenuity is micromanaged by the PTB. If we get rid of the PTB and find value in ourselves (we understand that we are the rulers of our own lives), all the problems will take care of themselves.
Our problem is not too few people, but a few thousand too many.
Is that true, though? The people who truly advance our knowledge of the universe are quite rare, and we don’t know how to make them appear. Playing the odds by having a hundred billion times our current population spread across the galaxy seems entirely reasonable to me. Interstellar distances also prevent any form of centralized elite, as multi-year travel times demolish any attempts at centralized control.
I'm not sure you fully appreciate how long we have been suppressed. The reality, the history you believe in has almost nothing to do with Reality according to my investigations. History is a lie.
I have no problem becoming interstellar. I think that's a great idea. By all means, be fruitful and multiply, but the suggestion to do so, without first having the capacity to expand is putting the cart before the horse.
I'm not entirely sure that's true. I think the whole "FTL" thing may be suppressed tech.