That’s not what I’m saying. I also agree there can be good people in a corrupt organization. You bring up a good question though. If those people are aware of the corruption and continue to engage in said corruption, are they still good people?
I treat athletes differently than actors. If you play a sport your entire life and are very skilled at it, it is more than just a game. If you work your ass off training your entire life to play professionally. Then you get there and there are some bad people playing the same sport as you and they are doing bad things. I don't think that means you have to quit playing.
Personally, I don't think anywhere near a majority of pro athletes are evil. I think most of them are slaves to their career path. Many don't make the money like Aaron Rogers. They will do what they are told, most took the jab, most abides by what they are told not to talk about (political correctness). This has gotten worse over the years. If these are the worst things they see and have to do, I don't blame them.
If they witness an even darker side that preys on children, that is a different story. If you witness that and learn that the majority of owners or high level names are involved, yes you should quit. But, I doubt they see this side of people, and I am not certain a majority of the owners are involved in shit like that either.
But, simple corruption, I don't think one has to give up their career for that.
I had a conversation with my son's baseball hitting coach, he played in the minors for 5 years and had a good average. He said he never cheated on his wife, while many players went around doing that sort of thing, he would always have a hotel roommate from the team that was a strong Christian as well. That way he would avoid temptation. While cheating was around him, I don't fault him for not quitting.
I appreciate the response and thanks for sharing your point of view! I think where we’re going to disagree is that I view professional athletes more similarly to actors. Actors would feel the same way regarding investing their time and efforts into a craft to earn a living. Many actors also are not wealthy, similarly to minor league players and lower.
I absolutely agree with your view in that overall a majority of players have no affiliation with the dark side of it all, outside of playing in their league. Televised sports are a very small minority of the overall profession and even then I’m sure that some know not what they do, hopefully lol. This is why my qualms are with the leagues themselves and their corruption and influence.
A good example of this is how the league disrespect their country, and continue to do so with their covid restrictions. Sports owners specifically defending China’s actions against the Uighurs. After learning what I have over the last few years, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that areas that host the super bowl are correlated to spikes in human trafficking arrests during that period.
Yes, you know you have a problem when a sports owner in NBA, Houston Rockets I believe attacked support of China by NBA and he was quickly dealt with and shut up.
I don't doubt many of the owners and some of the more high profile players are involved in some evil shit. I think wealth breeds this kind of evil. Not all wealthy will succumb to it, but many do.
What struck me about Rogers statement was calling out big tech for not censoring pedophiles. This isn't a topic someone would bring up if they didn't know what we know.
I used to big a big sports fan, would watch every NFL game, did fantasy football, and other football related pools. I quit watching most of it, although I still watch my local hockey team.
We probably agree more than we think, I guess my excitement about Rogers is more based in high profile figure speaking about subjects that we speak about. While I normally don't give a shit what a celebrity says, when they speak for us, I feel it is important for normies, b/c these are the people they will listen to.
no I dont watch the nfl, doesnt mean there cannot be a good person in it.
That’s not what I’m saying. I also agree there can be good people in a corrupt organization. You bring up a good question though. If those people are aware of the corruption and continue to engage in said corruption, are they still good people?
I treat athletes differently than actors. If you play a sport your entire life and are very skilled at it, it is more than just a game. If you work your ass off training your entire life to play professionally. Then you get there and there are some bad people playing the same sport as you and they are doing bad things. I don't think that means you have to quit playing.
Personally, I don't think anywhere near a majority of pro athletes are evil. I think most of them are slaves to their career path. Many don't make the money like Aaron Rogers. They will do what they are told, most took the jab, most abides by what they are told not to talk about (political correctness). This has gotten worse over the years. If these are the worst things they see and have to do, I don't blame them.
If they witness an even darker side that preys on children, that is a different story. If you witness that and learn that the majority of owners or high level names are involved, yes you should quit. But, I doubt they see this side of people, and I am not certain a majority of the owners are involved in shit like that either.
But, simple corruption, I don't think one has to give up their career for that.
I had a conversation with my son's baseball hitting coach, he played in the minors for 5 years and had a good average. He said he never cheated on his wife, while many players went around doing that sort of thing, he would always have a hotel roommate from the team that was a strong Christian as well. That way he would avoid temptation. While cheating was around him, I don't fault him for not quitting.
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I appreciate the response and thanks for sharing your point of view! I think where we’re going to disagree is that I view professional athletes more similarly to actors. Actors would feel the same way regarding investing their time and efforts into a craft to earn a living. Many actors also are not wealthy, similarly to minor league players and lower.
I absolutely agree with your view in that overall a majority of players have no affiliation with the dark side of it all, outside of playing in their league. Televised sports are a very small minority of the overall profession and even then I’m sure that some know not what they do, hopefully lol. This is why my qualms are with the leagues themselves and their corruption and influence. A good example of this is how the league disrespect their country, and continue to do so with their covid restrictions. Sports owners specifically defending China’s actions against the Uighurs. After learning what I have over the last few years, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that areas that host the super bowl are correlated to spikes in human trafficking arrests during that period.
Yes, you know you have a problem when a sports owner in NBA, Houston Rockets I believe attacked support of China by NBA and he was quickly dealt with and shut up.
I don't doubt many of the owners and some of the more high profile players are involved in some evil shit. I think wealth breeds this kind of evil. Not all wealthy will succumb to it, but many do.
What struck me about Rogers statement was calling out big tech for not censoring pedophiles. This isn't a topic someone would bring up if they didn't know what we know.
I used to big a big sports fan, would watch every NFL game, did fantasy football, and other football related pools. I quit watching most of it, although I still watch my local hockey team.
We probably agree more than we think, I guess my excitement about Rogers is more based in high profile figure speaking about subjects that we speak about. While I normally don't give a shit what a celebrity says, when they speak for us, I feel it is important for normies, b/c these are the people they will listen to.
Thanks for the dialogue.