I mean I'm just going to say this, you're never going to beat the police or the FBI or the army in an open firefight it's just not going to fucking happen they have too much manpower and too much of a technology advantage over you. At this point the second amendment you really shouldn't be focusing on firearms if you're talking about beating a state level actor the best way to do it is by not fucking being where they're at. You don't want to fight them directly because you will fucking die a pointless death and you won't really accomplish much of anything other than dying and maybe getting your entire family killed or locked in prison. I mean why the fuck do you think that all those hoagies in Afghanistan and in fucking Iraq we're laying bombs all over the fucking place and why they were always using snipers to take out guys? They fucking knew that they weren't going to win a direct fight. And even if they did win the casualties would be so fucking massive and the victory would be so fucking short-lived that it wasn't worth the price they had to pay to get that fucking short-lived little victory. I mean what you're talking about is basically being an insurgent and the number one rule of insurgency is that you can attack literally anywhere you choose because if you fight defensively as an insurgent you're going to fucking lose. Don't be where the enemy is at and where they're concentrated just don't do it. I mean you think we have so many fucking guys who spent a decade fighting this kind of fucking war over there you think they might have learned a little something about that shit but I don't know maybe we got a lot of soldiers who are dumb as rocks.