Daniel 11:32 - Another verse that destroys "rapture doctrine". Those who know God. It's why I read my bible. This verse is very encouraging and I look forward to seeing those who resist, be strong and take action, and carry out great exploits against the antichrist! My kinda people!
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Daniel 11 is a prophecy about the Antichrist. Verse 31 mentions the Abomination of Desolation, which occurs at the 3.5 year mark of the Tribulation Period (aka Time of Jacob's Trouble, Daniel's 70th Week), and starts the 3.5 year Great Tribulation. People will still be saved during this time; they are commonly called Tribulation Saints in many Bible Prophecy circles.
If you are alive, and on earth when this event occurs, you did it wrong, because the Rapture has already happened.
If you miss the Rapture, the only advice I can give is hide and survive, and DO NOT take the Mark on/in your hand or forehead.
And to my non-pre-trib brothers and sisters, I'll tell you "I told you so" up in the clouds very soon.
Much love, Patriots.
I started sharing the scriptural rebuttal of that doctrine a couple days ago. I love all my brothers and sisters in Christ. I love this debate too for as much as it encourages people to read and trust what the bible actually says, that it brings greater intimate knowledge of our savior.
But basically - Jesus and Paul and the book of revelations and many other scriptures make that doctrine plain false. If you want to see the debate and more of what I see in scripture follow the link below. God bless.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15HImDfGQW/i-dont-know-who-this-is-for-but-/
Amen to this. Gary DeMar has written many good books and articles about this exact topic. https://americanvision.org It is easy to Biblically argue against the "rapture doctrine". But I enjoy hearing about all possibilities.
We can explain it to them on the way up.
Hi Fat_MoCo,
Have you ever done word study's using Hebrew/Greek Lexicons by a couple of authors, and a Concordance...? Doing so will give you a better understanding of what each word means in context, and a better understanding of the sentence/paragraph's meaning vs the various standard translations that are out there.....
I love word studies. But the plain and simple words like "after" and "first" don't lose anything in translation. And Paul clearly says the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are still alive will be caught up... So the "first" resurrection is before the rapture. The "first resurrection" is defined in Rev 20. Jesus says his return is "immediately after the tribulations". Jesus said to the reapers to gather "first" the tares, then gather the wheat into the barn. These words make pre-trib rapture false.
In fact there is no mystery or controversy in the scripture. The confusion only comes from people inserting what they want to read.
The rapture of the church (the bride of Christ) has to happen before the 7 year tribulation. https://www.calvarychapelmagazine.org/index.php/calvary-chapel-articles/604-j-d-farag
Well I've watched a couple J.D Faraj videos already so I'm not going to read this. I already know this guy peaches that apostasy means rapture (but just the one time ever). But think about this. This doctrine requires the rapture to happen before tribulations as you say. This doctrine loves thessalonians where Paul says that we who are alive when Jesus returns will be "caught up". That's the rapture. And Paul says the dead in Christ go first in the verse just before.
So the dead in Christ are resurrected before tribulations? Even though Jesus says his return is immediately after that in Matthew 24? And then Revelations 20 defines the "first resurrection" that includes those who resisted the mark of the beast?
Just by reading three scriptures about the return of Jesus should totally end any silly pre-trib rapture theories. It's not even controversial if we just make Jesus the true authority.
There will be tribulations, and the Bible says that God will help us through it. That means no one is skipping out. It also means there won't be two "second" comings, as many misguided people seem to think. We all go together.
The "rapture" before "tribulation" was only made up in the 1800s.
Those are facts. Many people have been misled about what the Bible actually says, without bothering to read for themselves.
Especially misled is the vast majority of Christians who believe the doctrines dictated to us by the Pope. I could give a full sermon on that topic. :)
Daniel eh, thanks moco
Most of what American Christians believe about Christianity is bullshit.
yeah. I'm wondering when I should bring up Easter and Christmas. ;)
No rapture, no "ultimate anti christ", the anti christ is anyone who steps into the office of pope, or any office which parallels it in whatever religion. A man being the conduit between God and men? The ultimate and final one was Jesus Christ, and now, whoever believes in Him is that conduit, for all unbelievers. The popes are the anti christs and any pope-esque figure regardless of the religion
It looks blurry for me in preview but it's clear when I follow the link to the image.
and https://biblehub.com/daniel/11-32.htm#commentary