"sister Dora Van Assen. Many years ago she wrote, “What is the chaff to the wheat? ‘Whose fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor, and gather His wheat into the garner; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire’ (Mat. 3:12). ‘Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn’ (Mat. 13:30)."
"For years I read eternal torment into the foregoing scriptures. I had the wheat as all the saved people taken to heaven, the chaff and tares as all the unsaved people put in hell to be burned with a literal unquenchable fire; until God spoke to my heart saying: ‘You cannot have wheat without chaff, for it takes the chaff to hold the wheat until it is fully matured, and only then can it be threshed, removing the chaff without damaging the seed of life. So this is done at the end of the harvest when the seed is fully grown.’ Thus God gradually began to open my eyes to see that the chaff and the wheat were both in my own self; that my natural Adam nature or human identity was the chaff encasing the wheat, the very life-seed of Christ; that I was being born of an incorruptible seed, and that seed is Christ in me, the hope of glory. These scriptural concepts began to take on new meaning in a most wonderful way!"
“I then began to see that it is first the natural and then the spiritual (I Cor. 15:44-46); that without the natural we could not contain the spiritual. We are an earthen vessel holding a ‘treasure’ which is the very excellency of God (II Cor. 4:7). Be glad, therefore, for this natural creation because out of it God brings forth a NEW CREATION! If the chaff is removed before the wheat is mature, it will do damage to the wheat. It is needed to hold the wheat as it passes from the milk stage into the fully hardened and mature stage, where it can be removed from the chaff without harming the wheat in any way. Then the wheat is placed in the barn and the chaff is burned. Today in this enlightened age, even the chaff has many useful purposes, but in ancient times it was simply disposed of by fire. There is absolutely no waste in the economy of God! The prophet inquired, ‘What is the chaff to the wheat?’ (Jer. 23:28). Praise God, it is the super-structure, scaffolding, or encasement which covers and holds the wheat intact as it grows into the very likeness of the One who planted it within. All seed brings forth after its own kind. So, Christ shall see His seed and be satisfied when it comes into His own image and likeness!"
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I don't know who sister Dora Van Assen is, but this is quite good. The rapture in Revelation 14:15 and elsewhere is depicted as a harvest, and the harvest cannot come until the wheat is ripe, or mature. What matures the wheat? The heat of the sun, which signifies tribulation. May we all grow and mature in Christ in these coming days!
“Looking again at Matthew 3:11-12. ‘He that cometh after me is mightier than I…He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: whose fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor, and gather His wheat into the garner; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.’ We find that this baptism with the Holy Ghost and with fire is accomplished AT THE END OF THE HARVEST. The phrase, ‘and He will thoroughly purge His floor,’ speaks of the threshing floor where the chaff is removed from the wheat. Furthermore, it should be clear to all that the ‘unquenchable fire’ is not the fire of hell, for nothing is said here about hell, but it is the baptism of fire which attends the baptism with the Holy Spirit. The fire is the Holy Ghost fire! This represents the fullness of the Spirit for which Paul prayed (Eph. 3:19), not just the firstfruits of the Spirit, at our initial filling with the Spirit, spoken of as Pentecostal, but the full measure of the Spirit which brings the full redemption of our spirit, soul, and body (Rom. 8:23) into the sonship dimension of full responsibility. This is the redemption for which all creation is groaning, called by Paul ‘the manifestation of the sons of God."
“The Holy Spirit baptism of fire is burning away all our natural Adamic nature. Our God is a consuming fire (Heb. 12:29), consuming the sin but not the sinner; cleansing and purging away the tin and the dross (Isa. 1:25). Thank God! This fiery cleansing will not be quenched until all our carnality is completely removed. The Father will not spare the scourging of any son whom He receiveth until they also be partakers of His divine nature and holiness (Heb. 12). Jesus came to purify a peculiar people unto Himself (Tit. 2:14). So we hear Him saying, ‘I am come to send fire in the earth (not in hell!); and how I wish it were already kindled’ (Lk. 12:49). He was looking forward to the time when He would return in the form of the Spirit to do a great purifying work within His own sons and within His people, transforming them into His own image. ‘Everyone shall be salted with fire’ (Mk. 9:49). Salt has a preservative and purifying quality, while fire purifies and transforms into other elements and gases. So we see every living sacrifice presented to Him being purified and changed into a ‘sweet smelling savor unto God.’ So we hear Jeremiah say concerning the chaff and the wheat, ‘He that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. Is not my word like a fire? saith the Lord, and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces.’ Much of our dreams and visions are a mixture of ourselves, as they pass through our own mind and personality. But His word is as a fire burning the chaff in the right measure and time, exposing the pure wheat of the word!"
“Let us also consider the wheat and the tares. Their true meaning is found in the parable Jesus recorded in Matthew 13:24-30. Because the chaff had taken on such a totally different meaning as I was taught by the Holy Spirit, I was sure my first understanding of the tares could be wrong also. And as I was thinking on these things, suddenly it stood out so plainly: THE WHEAT AND THE TARES DID NOT CONVERT ONE ANOTHER! Wheat was wheat, the tares were tares, both growing up together just like the wheat and the chaff, until the time of harvest."
Private interpretation, scripture not taken against other scripture. All of creation, including me, groans under the weight of sin. Why are animals still killing each other? Doesn't the scripture say that in the kingdom they will lie down together?
Check out the whole Bible not just parts of it.
You're expecting this interpretation of Revelation to be something like you've heard in the past, it is not. You want a particular verse to fit in the timing of this scripture, it does, but different than you are used to. I do enjoy considering the whole of scripture, Preston Eby is not outside of that rule.
Dude, before chapter 14 verse 15, stars are falling to the Earth, death and hell have been loosed. After this verse, the great harlot is burned with fire. You guys are short circuiting prophecy.
All of that signifies something spiritual, it is not talking about stars or harlots in the flesh................The above is from a 250 essay study on Revelation from an Idealist spiritual interpretive method. The study is many decades of Preston Eby's work on Revelation, he takes the book verse by verse, so the events you are speaking of have been covered. The whole study is well worth reading, it is an alternative to the typical Revelation interpretation.
“In that moment I saw that this was not a parable on soul-saving, nor was it an exhortation to scare the heathen or sinning Christians in the church into a conversion, but it was a parable dealing with the inner thought life of the believer himself. In the context around this parable we find that Jesus was uttering ‘things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world’ (Mat. 13:35). In other words, by this parable, He was explaining in parabolic form something which had taken place from the beginning! I believe He was referring to what had happened in the garden of Eden when sin entered into the plan of God. There we find God fellowshipping with Adam in the cool of the day. Certainly God was not standing there in bodily form any more than He comes in bodily form when we commune with Him and hear His voice. By the Spirit God was planting His good thoughts and spiritual understanding in the mind of Adam. But while Adam was not aware of it, the adversary also came into the garden and whispered and planted evil thoughts and carnal understanding, causing a duality within, which led him to fall into a carnal mind. This dual mind of both good and evil was as a split personality within man, each capable of bringing forth a harvest of a certain kind of man (Rom,. 8:6). The battlefield is in the mind!"
“Some may object to this interpretation of the tares, because Jesus in His explanation of the parable used the words, ‘the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one’ (Mat. 13:38). That does sound as if they are two different kinds of people. And indeed they are! If we will just stop for a moment and think this through, we must admit that God is an invisible spirit, and Satan is likewise invisible spirit. Neither of these produce flesh and blood children of their own! The new creation is formed in a people who are ‘renewed in the spirit of their mind.’ So the term ‘children’ must be taken as a metaphor. The Holy Spirit deals with men in their minds and thoughts, and Satan can only attack man in his mind, giving false ideas and imaginations. These thought-pictures are often called ‘brain children.’ And these determine what manner of man a man is!"
“These thought-pictures can be either good or bad, spiritual or carnal. Paul exhorts us to ‘cast down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ’ (II Cor. 10:5). Bringing this parable down to us personally, we find that our own mind is the field in which are planted both good and evil. The children or offspring of the kingdom, and the children or offspring of the wicked one, are a mixture of both good and evil, flesh and spirit, growing up together within us until the harvest, which is the time of separation. The tares are somewhat different from the chaff in that the chaff is part of the wheat; however the tares are not part of the wheat, but a foreign implantation made to appear as wheat. The harvest reveals what sort of seed was planted in our earth, and how they have matured in areas of our lives. Only the mature know the difference! And only by harvest conditions can the Lord bring the separation!”
Thanks for this post. :D