"God’s people are still prone to think with carnal minds. When they read in the prophecies of the Bible about the gathering of kings unto battle, and the fighting of great wars, immediately their attention is focused on world events rather than on the things of God. This fallacy-ridden practice has given rise to what has been rightly termed “newspaper eschatology” — studying current events in the arena of “this present evil world” rather than searching the mind of the Spirit for the wisdom and understanding God gives of the true thing He is doing in the earth by His Spirit! The work of God is not currently outside of us, not out there in the world of darkness with all of its plans and efforts and shamefully fleshly activities and wicked schemes. The work of God is within His people! “For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure” (Phil. 2:13). Sons of God do not derive their theology from the newspapers nor the television news casts. What you read and hear there is not what God is doing! Nor is it what God is talking about! That is not where God’s work is seen! Nor is that what God is concerned with! The Holy Spirit of God has not come within us to show us what the world system is up to — He has come to “take the things of Christ and show them unto us!”
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I'm not thinking God lies at all, doctrine does though.
God spoke about this in His Word, it actually happened and you're calling it "doctrine?"
Revelation is not talking about the physical world. That is a doctrine. Now if your doctrine is Revelation is talking about the physical world, one of our doctrines is a lie. I'm 100% on the whole Revelation is spiritual, not any of it is physical. Literally spiritual.
If you would study the Old Testament, instead of the words of the happy crank, you would see that there have been "dress rehearsals," what we call "types," of everything that has been prophecied in Revelation. Noah's ark was a type of the rapture of the righteous, the flood was a type of God's wrath on the wicked and Noah's family is a type of the Jewish remnant that will carry on after tribulation. I can see evidence of Noah's flood everywhere I look. Do you deny that this literally took place?
The Greek word polemeō is used in Rev 2:16, and I don’t think the traditional interpretation of that verse is turned upside down.
GP with the false dilemma.
The first post in this thread had, “Revelation is not talking about…” then the first reply asked about the destruction of Sodom in Genesis. Then there was these quoted comments where the first post was on whether Revelation is speaking to the physical or the spiritual. The response was on the literal event of the flood in Genesis. It sounds to me like there’s an implied implication that taking an event in Genesis as literally happening is a determining factor for interpreting the book of Revelation.
Without providing evidence, the article author is saying that everyone else’s interpretation of Revelation for 2,000 years is turned upside down. Without the evidence, I’ll kindly disregard this unsupported assertion.
"To be consistent, if one takes the reference to Armageddon literally, then he ought also to take the reference to the three slick, slimy frogs literally. Both references appear in the same passage! Yet no one ever suggests that there will be three creatures resembling frogs literally going about over the earth, landing at airports, conferring with the heads of state of many nations, seeking allies and recruits for this battle. In order to follow the path of consistency as witnessed again and again throughout the book of Revelation, we must look upon this reference to Armageddon as symbolic imagery, as with the reference to frogs. These are not descriptions of national and world events, but of the outworkings of the mighty spiritual purposes of God!"