2 Timothy 3:16-17All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
Through theological studies, expanding knowledge on them, and including various religions, can show us this is a common theme in them all. But i admit, the Holy Bible as it is now is key into building the solid foundation that allows you to successfully reach out from there and ponder the truth of matters.
Maybe you're not there yet, but for me, after i had a solid base on scripture, i needed more. I used the skill gained to reach out and study more, and determine if the people way back then made the right call to determine it such.
I found the texts they rejected to contain interesting content, sometimes valuable, namely Daniel's extra chapters. People try to shape history today, (eg: no fraud) and we see how they were wrong. The powers that be have been doing that for a long time.
I'm not saying to start with these, but they are still read-worthy and good at putting your Holy Bible based skill to work.
Have you never noticed in John' s letters the tendency to call out others for certain views?
Or in Acts is told the differences of opinion between Peter & John and Paul.
And even from Acts we learn there are those adhering to "The Way" being only cognizant of the baptism of John.
Is it so unimaginable there are Christians who are more gnostic? Compare the Gospel of John with Marc. You will see immediately the difference. Chapter 1 is gnostic as it comes.
However, a bunch of religious and political hustlers in 325AD in a place called Nicea decided on what should be in the bible as the orthodoxy. John' s Gospel nearly did not make it. Neither the Apocalypse (Revelation).
Jude makes mentioning of the book of Enoch. You will not find it in the Nicean Canon.
It can be beneficial to consider the place where Christians were first called such. Who was there? When? Circumstances? And why is his background relevant?
What is the contents of the Gospel of Thomas? Why was it hidden? Who benefited? Or who was not the wiser for it?
This is apocrypha, written by gentiles, after the scriptures were completed in AD95. You can use it as a historical reference but doctrinally and spiritually is pretty much garbage.
apocrypha = hard to understand stuff. The name itself implies quite a lot: away from hidden. And those who stand to gain from orthodoxy, be they religious or scientific, have run with the word and reimagined its application. Books/scrolls of unknonwn, doubtful origin.
You really want to put such a label on those books, intentionally hidden, while the bible itself is of the same type of origin?
King Johosiah: The priests find in some recess of the temple the books of Moses ....Neat! If you could appreciate the gravity of that story .... a lot that we have witnessed and will witnesses falls into place.
And Sola Scritura advocates cannot get around one simple item: Nicea and the meeting that took place there in 325 AD.
Sometimes it is difficult to accept, that the world is a little different than we were lead to belief.
Nicea and the meeting that took place there in 325 AD.
The King James Bible did not originate from Nicea. It originated from Antioch Syria, where the disciples of Jesus Christ went after they left Jerusalem. Make note that the KJV has never included the Apocrypha among the 66 books it canonized.
Kjv is a piece of political ponerology to support the pre-eminence of the Church of England, a political document in short. Of course with the best of intentions.
So, here we have the OT as a political document furnished by the Priests with the message: obey the law in what we tell you the law is.
Then Paul, one of the inner-crowd people comes along with his version, which so happens to be the basis of understanding of what Christianity is for most people and is the measure by which other books are judged.
But what is worse, your argument is an appeal to authority.
Personally, I don't mind. That is your freedom, the bed you made for yourself. Enjoy.
Consider:
2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
Through theological studies, expanding knowledge on them, and including various religions, can show us this is a common theme in them all. But i admit, the Holy Bible as it is now is key into building the solid foundation that allows you to successfully reach out from there and ponder the truth of matters.
Maybe you're not there yet, but for me, after i had a solid base on scripture, i needed more. I used the skill gained to reach out and study more, and determine if the people way back then made the right call to determine it such.
I found the texts they rejected to contain interesting content, sometimes valuable, namely Daniel's extra chapters. People try to shape history today, (eg: no fraud) and we see how they were wrong. The powers that be have been doing that for a long time.
I'm not saying to start with these, but they are still read-worthy and good at putting your Holy Bible based skill to work.
Early Christians .... you mean who?
Have you never noticed in John' s letters the tendency to call out others for certain views?
Or in Acts is told the differences of opinion between Peter & John and Paul.
And even from Acts we learn there are those adhering to "The Way" being only cognizant of the baptism of John.
Is it so unimaginable there are Christians who are more gnostic? Compare the Gospel of John with Marc. You will see immediately the difference. Chapter 1 is gnostic as it comes.
However, a bunch of religious and political hustlers in 325AD in a place called Nicea decided on what should be in the bible as the orthodoxy. John' s Gospel nearly did not make it. Neither the Apocalypse (Revelation).
Jude makes mentioning of the book of Enoch. You will not find it in the Nicean Canon.
It can be beneficial to consider the place where Christians were first called such. Who was there? When? Circumstances? And why is his background relevant?
What is the contents of the Gospel of Thomas? Why was it hidden? Who benefited? Or who was not the wiser for it?
I kinda feel like if your read the gospels this stuff is already in there. Its just said different.
Paraphrasing hear but, if you truly believe, one could tell the mountain to move and it would.
Jesus is the creator, before Abraham was, "I am."
Jesus was the rock that sprung with living waters.
Jesus was the voice at the burning bush.
Jesus told the apostles they to can feed the multitudes and heal the sick.
Jesus was the angel of the lord who wrestled with Jacob.
No it wasn't.
This is apocrypha, written by gentiles, after the scriptures were completed in AD95. You can use it as a historical reference but doctrinally and spiritually is pretty much garbage.
apocrypha = hard to understand stuff. The name itself implies quite a lot: away from hidden. And those who stand to gain from orthodoxy, be they religious or scientific, have run with the word and reimagined its application. Books/scrolls of unknonwn, doubtful origin.
You really want to put such a label on those books, intentionally hidden, while the bible itself is of the same type of origin?
King Johosiah: The priests find in some recess of the temple the books of Moses ....Neat! If you could appreciate the gravity of that story .... a lot that we have witnessed and will witnesses falls into place.
And Sola Scritura advocates cannot get around one simple item: Nicea and the meeting that took place there in 325 AD.
Sometimes it is difficult to accept, that the world is a little different than we were lead to belief.
Nicea and the meeting that took place there in 325 AD.
The King James Bible did not originate from Nicea. It originated from Antioch Syria, where the disciples of Jesus Christ went after they left Jerusalem. Make note that the KJV has never included the Apocrypha among the 66 books it canonized.
Kjv is a piece of political ponerology to support the pre-eminence of the Church of England, a political document in short. Of course with the best of intentions.
So, here we have the OT as a political document furnished by the Priests with the message: obey the law in what we tell you the law is.
Then Paul, one of the inner-crowd people comes along with his version, which so happens to be the basis of understanding of what Christianity is for most people and is the measure by which other books are judged.
But what is worse, your argument is an appeal to authority.
Personally, I don't mind. That is your freedom, the bed you made for yourself. Enjoy.
The Gospel of Thomas was used by Mohammed to learn about Christianity. Which is why Mohammed got the details of Christianity wrong.
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