"Eight is the number of new beginnings. Every time there is new light, a fresh moving of God, a mighty reformation, a great and glorious revival in the midst of the Lord’s people who dwell in Babylon — there is a separation, a coming out, and a new thing is birthed. We see it in the Waldenses, the Huguenots, and various other groups throughout church history. We see it in the Reformation when the Protestant churches came out of the Roman Catholic Church with the great truth that the just shall live by faith. The Anabaptists, the Quakers, the Methodists, the Plymouth Brethren, the Puritans, the Pentecostals, and many, many other groups came forth out of the historic Protestant church systems as they received new truth and sought to follow the Lord into new realms in the spirit. Each of these is represented by the “eighth” — a new beginning. And yet, as church history unerringly confirms, every new move of God has subsequently gone into apostasy!"
"It is a great and terrible mystery — the eighth is OF THE SEVEN. There is the key to the mystery! It does not mean that the eighth is “one of the seven.” Oh, no! The preposition “of” is from the Greek “ek” meaning “out of,” and must be understood, as so frequently in John’s writings, to denote origin and identity of nature; this eighth beast is not different in nature from the seven, but is the concentrated essence of them, and therefore destined to not maintain its cuddly innocence and childlike purity, but to go into apostasy — into perdition. It should be very evident to us all that this “eighth” beast, this new beginning, when a people are drawn out of a religious system into a new walk in the spirit, in most cases contains right within it the seed of the Babylonish system out from which they came. Thus they are the eighth — but the new thing is of the seven — same old business under a new regime — and the latter is of the same spirit as the former! Now tell me that isn’t a mystery! The new move has the same potentiality and proclivity for carnality and sectarianism built right in from the very beginning because both the nature of the harlot and the nature of the beast lurk within the heart of every man. So through the generations, rising up in many expressions, the harlot and her beast are within us! And that, my beloved, is the mystery! The various religious kingdoms of man have brought to the full (seven heads, seven mountains, ten horns) the workings of Mystery Babylon the Great!"
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Revelation is the vision of what happens during the time of the tribulations, which is also known as the time of Jacob's trouble. Not the time of the churches trouble. You can't even find the word church in between chapter 4 and chapter 21. Your interpretation is in error. You are not a Jew.
Spiritually I am.
Thats a little deeper than I have time for.
Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
I'm a part of the new Jerusalem, the bride of Christ. The city of God is us.
That's all handled soon in the Revelation of Jesus Christ!
You are not a Jew. Spiritually I am.
Is your salvation by faith and works? Don't dodge the question. You are inserting yourself into the tribulation, which is the restoration of the nation of Israel by force, and making it your own. The body of Christ is removed from the world before the tribulation begins, so that they can return with Christ at the second Advent.
Revelation 19 KJV 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
This is before He rides from Heaven, on His white horse, with his army of saints, returning to the Earth.
Second Advent
Interesting Andy, I thought about your question while riding home from work, between chapters 4 and 21 is the work of Jesus Christ on the inner man which scripturally is our earth. Revelation is written entirely to the church, not a word of it is to or about the world that lies in wickedness, or about the physical world. The mistake you are making, as you have been led, is to think it is about Christ destroying the physical world...............It most certainly is not, it is Christ destroying the carnal world in the church..............It is Jesus Christ taking what is His
Basically is it Christ destroying the carnal man in us, this is a glorious thing as it is a benefit to us, for we desire to have Christ as our all in all.
Until you get your mind off the carnal and physical, you will continue to not be able to understand the spiritual Kingdom of God, and the goings on in your life of Christ freeing you from the carnal.
It was a good ride(bicycle), 13.5 miles in 95 degree weather.
Peace my friend.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
And I SAW. With his own eyes. An literal army.
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I SAW. With his own eyes. A literal new Heaven and new earth.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Flesh that lives on into eternity. That must eat from the tree of and drink from waters of life. Physical flesh.