As a point of consideration, she should at least attempt to be fair when weighing her life, as we presume to do right now sitting in judgement. (There's a reason this task is typically left up to the Lord, IMO).
She is a product of her times and her upbringing. She understood her role as a symbol of the UK and worked diligently to do that, while steadfastly avoiding politics so as to ensure that Parliament held the power and made the decisions. She didn't feud with the people's choice openly. That is a lifetime's service to her country. She was born into that. She could have shirked it, or turned into a brainless socialite like Paris Hilton or something, but she didn't. She was born into service and she did that, and not just in wartime.
She worked with Trump. We recall the 2018 trip Trump took to meet the Queen. She gave him formal state honors, then renounced her hidden control over the US (see the Q discussions for details there). She permitted Trump to disrespect her ceremonially, as a sign of the transfer of power. Maybe she was forced, but she did do it.
She was not blind to the pedo stuff either. Prince Andrew was, reportedly one of her favorites, but had to be distanced from the royal family and quietly disavowed because of his associations with Epstein. Prince Harry sacked up with Megan Markel, a cabal insider and plant, and the Queen forced him to renounce his title. Not a small act. It was a tremendous public shaming.
I'm not going to pretend to fully understand this woman or UK culture. I'm American and proud of it, but I also don't think she was as bad as we've been hinted at. Perhaps, I don't fully understand the story, but from my outsider's view, I see at least some things that are worthy of some basic decency and respect due to a person who just died.
I'm not going to pretend to fully understand this woman or UK culture. I'm American and proud of it, but I also don't think she was as bad as we've been hinted at. Perhaps, I don't fully understand the story, but from my outsider's view, I see at least some things that are worthy of some basic decency and respect due to a person who just died.
A lot of Brits feel that way about Hillary.
Is she worthy of some basic decency and respect too?
With due and considerable respect to you as a fellow anon and an ex soldier;
Her crimes far outshined her valour.
There is nothing intrinsically special about a monarch, they are just warlords and the queen was a particularly bad apple.
Savile.
As a point of consideration, she should at least attempt to be fair when weighing her life, as we presume to do right now sitting in judgement. (There's a reason this task is typically left up to the Lord, IMO).
She is a product of her times and her upbringing. She understood her role as a symbol of the UK and worked diligently to do that, while steadfastly avoiding politics so as to ensure that Parliament held the power and made the decisions. She didn't feud with the people's choice openly. That is a lifetime's service to her country. She was born into that. She could have shirked it, or turned into a brainless socialite like Paris Hilton or something, but she didn't. She was born into service and she did that, and not just in wartime.
She worked with Trump. We recall the 2018 trip Trump took to meet the Queen. She gave him formal state honors, then renounced her hidden control over the US (see the Q discussions for details there). She permitted Trump to disrespect her ceremonially, as a sign of the transfer of power. Maybe she was forced, but she did do it.
She was not blind to the pedo stuff either. Prince Andrew was, reportedly one of her favorites, but had to be distanced from the royal family and quietly disavowed because of his associations with Epstein. Prince Harry sacked up with Megan Markel, a cabal insider and plant, and the Queen forced him to renounce his title. Not a small act. It was a tremendous public shaming.
I'm not going to pretend to fully understand this woman or UK culture. I'm American and proud of it, but I also don't think she was as bad as we've been hinted at. Perhaps, I don't fully understand the story, but from my outsider's view, I see at least some things that are worthy of some basic decency and respect due to a person who just died.
A lot of Brits feel that way about Hillary.
Is she worthy of some basic decency and respect too?
Well?
“Fuck no she’s not” is the answer. Period.
It's not so different.
Neither is worthy of respect.