This is my first time posting, so please forgive any formatting issues. TLDR to start because your time is valuable, and this is a long post.
TLDR: I have seen no evidence to support that the US is a corporation. I have seen two main forms of proof, which I dispute below. Straight forward enough?
I am posting to address a theory that circulates on here every so often. I refer to what I will call the US Corporation theory. I don’t know if supporters have a different name for it, so apologies if it has a better name.
I may be mistaken, but I have also taken the US Corporation theory to include the Sovereign Citizen movement. I do this because when they quote law, they use similar references. Also, there is a lot of overlap between the two. Please correct me in the comments if these are independent and should be treated differently.
I was inspired to post by a video link posted in the comments here today. I am not linking to the comment, or the post they commented on because I am not “calling out” the poster, or insinuating that they glow like Chernobyl. I am assuming they are good folk, and not a clown.
I also want to say the video has some good info, just definitely not what I write about below. The link was to the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl4j5xF-Js&t=12s&ab_channel=RageAgainstNWO
The video made two claims in particular that stood out to me. First, that the United States became a corporation under the Organic Act of 1871. Link to the current Federal Code, 28 U.S.C. 3002, which incorporates the Act of 1781, below:
The theory points to 28 U.S.C. 3002 Section 15. I am skipping Sections (1) through (14) here. You can find them at the link above.:
- Definitions
As used in this chapter:
…
(15) "United States" means—
(A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
Here’s the problem with interpreting United States means a Federal Corporation. See that part right at the beginning that says: “As used in this chapter”? Those are the definitions for this chapter. Not always, and not everywhere in the US Code – only for this chapter.
Second, that the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783 confirms that the US was and is a British colony:
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/treaty-of-paris
You can scroll down to see a transcript of the document. The following is the part that I think the video refers to, very first paragraph:
“It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the Hearts of the most Serene and most Potent Prince George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, Arch- Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.. and of the United States of America, to forget all past Misunderstandings and Differences that have unhappily interrupted the good Correspondence and Friendship which they mutually wish to restore;”
The above reads as if the King of England is referred to as King or Price Elector of the United States. Keep in mind that this also says he is King of France, a country he was actively at war with, and who aided us in the Revolutionary War.
Next, go to Article 1 of the document:
“His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and Independent States; that he treats with them as such, and for himself his Heirs & Successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, Propriety, and Territorial Rights of the same and every Part thereof.
Since I can’t format on this site for shit, let me just put some emphasis of my own:
His Brittanic Majesty
acknowledges
the said Unites States
to be free and sovereign Independent States
and for himself his Heirs & Successors
relinquishes all claims to the Government, Propriety and Territorial Rights of the Same and every Part thereof.
I think that wraps up the French Treaty part of the theory.
Please feel free to send me something else to look up for this. Give me legal citations to check. If you genuinely believe the US is a corporation, I truly want to look at your sources.
I am not a lawyer, but I do work in legal. I am passionate about the law, and I do not appreciate when people claim the law says one thing when it really says something else. That’s what Demonrats do.
I know some may take offense to the notion of this theory being bunk, but I also think you've approached it in a mature manner. Good theories need to withstand basic scrutiny. I too have found the information on this lacking, but perhaps there's some legal thing I've missed as well?
If there's anyone on the pro side of this theory, I'd like to see a good break down of how exactly it's supposed to be true, with the legalese spelled out a little better for those of us who didn't work IN the jag office.
Thanks and I agree! That was why I made this!
My understanding! Sovernn citizen is a title created by the BAR Association. It's a trap. You need to do more research on that one. Cop asks if you're a citizen of any kind it's a trap. We should be referenced as an Iowan National, State National, or we the people. That said you must remove yourself from that corporation, that does exist. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA all caps is the corporation. These United States is constitutionally correct. We are the people, We The People, not citizens. I've been wanting to do posts on this but I've only got about 30 hours research time. There are millions of State nationals now and growing fast. I believe this to be the most important action we can take to regain control of the country. I'm looking into it more. When I have supporting docs I'll do that. For now, I've read some of the supporting docs, and I whole heartedly believe this to be true. But that's me. I also believe the deep State has created shortcut sites to become a State National. These sites I believe are designed to do it incorrectly, thus getting people arrested while creating doubt in the process. We've all seen the vids on that. I plan to do posts but it's a deep deep rabbit hole. YouTube had some vids that are worth watching. David Lester Straight Utah is a good set to start with!
That's another good item: where does anything official say that "ALL CAPITAL LETTERS" means anything at all?
Nowhere. I worked many years at a law firm. All caps didn't exist until typewriters were invented. There was no boldface or underline on typewriters, so the only way to emphasize names in a long document was to type them in all caps. After computers came out we did the same, as the daisy-wheel printers didn't do all caps either. Then we got laser printers that could do boldface, but law firms don't change overnight, so we kept the same procedures in place.
There are people claiming that all birth certificates have your name in all caps to show that you are collateral for some money scheme. That is not so. I am a researcher, and I've looked at thousands of old original birth certificates in a number of states. They were all entirely handwritten, meaning no all caps anywhere. These people also claim that the certificates have serial numbers, but I 've never seen anything other than a short page number.
It's all made up by wingnuts.
Incorporated businesses are all filed under all caps.