This is my first time posting, so please forgive any formatting issues. TLDR to start because your time is valuable, and this is a long post.
TLDR: I have seen no evidence to support that the US is a corporation. I have seen two main forms of proof, which I dispute below. Straight forward enough?
I am posting to address a theory that circulates on here every so often. I refer to what I will call the US Corporation theory. I don’t know if supporters have a different name for it, so apologies if it has a better name.
I may be mistaken, but I have also taken the US Corporation theory to include the Sovereign Citizen movement. I do this because when they quote law, they use similar references. Also, there is a lot of overlap between the two. Please correct me in the comments if these are independent and should be treated differently.
I was inspired to post by a video link posted in the comments here today. I am not linking to the comment, or the post they commented on because I am not “calling out” the poster, or insinuating that they glow like Chernobyl. I am assuming they are good folk, and not a clown.
I also want to say the video has some good info, just definitely not what I write about below. The link was to the following video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHl4j5xF-Js&t=12s&ab_channel=RageAgainstNWO
The video made two claims in particular that stood out to me. First, that the United States became a corporation under the Organic Act of 1871. Link to the current Federal Code, 28 U.S.C. 3002, which incorporates the Act of 1781, below:
The theory points to 28 U.S.C. 3002 Section 15. I am skipping Sections (1) through (14) here. You can find them at the link above.:
- Definitions
As used in this chapter:
…
(15) "United States" means—
(A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
Here’s the problem with interpreting United States means a Federal Corporation. See that part right at the beginning that says: “As used in this chapter”? Those are the definitions for this chapter. Not always, and not everywhere in the US Code – only for this chapter.
Second, that the Paris Peace Treaty of 1783 confirms that the US was and is a British colony:
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/treaty-of-paris
You can scroll down to see a transcript of the document. The following is the part that I think the video refers to, very first paragraph:
“It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the Hearts of the most Serene and most Potent Prince George the Third, by the Grace of God, King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, Arch- Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.. and of the United States of America, to forget all past Misunderstandings and Differences that have unhappily interrupted the good Correspondence and Friendship which they mutually wish to restore;”
The above reads as if the King of England is referred to as King or Price Elector of the United States. Keep in mind that this also says he is King of France, a country he was actively at war with, and who aided us in the Revolutionary War.
Next, go to Article 1 of the document:
“His Brittanic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz., New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be free sovereign and Independent States; that he treats with them as such, and for himself his Heirs & Successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, Propriety, and Territorial Rights of the same and every Part thereof.
Since I can’t format on this site for shit, let me just put some emphasis of my own:
His Brittanic Majesty
acknowledges
the said Unites States
to be free and sovereign Independent States
and for himself his Heirs & Successors
relinquishes all claims to the Government, Propriety and Territorial Rights of the Same and every Part thereof.
I think that wraps up the French Treaty part of the theory.
Please feel free to send me something else to look up for this. Give me legal citations to check. If you genuinely believe the US is a corporation, I truly want to look at your sources.
I am not a lawyer, but I do work in legal. I am passionate about the law, and I do not appreciate when people claim the law says one thing when it really says something else. That’s what Demonrats do.
This is akin to people saying that all caps on your birth certificate means you're collateral worth billions of dollars.
That is not so. I am a researcher, and I've looked at thousands of old original birth certificates, including my own, in a number of states. They were all entirely handwritten, meaning no all caps anywhere. These people also claim that the certificates have serial numbers, but I 've never seen anything other than a short page number, even on the newest typewritten certificates. Also, none of them looked like stock certificates as portrayed by these people. The birth certificates all were rectangular in portrait mode and were printed by local print shops. Only the certified copies that you get from the county have a background. And those are printed by local print shops as well.
I worked many years at a law firm. All caps didn't exist until typewriters were invented. There was no boldface or underline on typewriters, so the only way to emphasize names in a long document was to type them in all caps. After computers came out we did the same, as the daisy-wheel printers didn't do all caps either. Then we got laser printers that could do boldface, but law firms don't change overnight, so we kept the same procedures in place.
And yes, birth certificates were filled in by hand for many years after typewriters were invented, as doctors didn't own typewriters and wouldn't carry them around in their buggies or cars anyway. I was born in a hospital, and the doctor still filled out my birth certificate by hand.
All this stuff is made up by wingnuts with way too much time on their hands.
Thank you for this. That is where I am coming from. There is a lot of verifiably false stuff circulated as a part of this theory that I did not address. I addressed the two cites I saw. I have not seen one pro theorist cite in here besides the two I already addressed, but in fairness I have to review the longer comments. I think this is a time sink meant to waste resources like time and focus. I think I will try to prove it, if I can.
I spent a lot of time looking into a lot of these related things and never found anything but smoke and mirrors. There are misleading statements, outright lies, and a smidgen of truth to confuse people.