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16 July 2018 / Trump - Putin Press Conference - Helsinki Finland

https://youtu.be/cwxqOoIyWm0?t=1481 (timestamp / transcript below)

REPORTER (Jeff Mason from Reuters): For President Putin if I could follow up as well. Why should Americans and why should President Trump believe your statement that Russia did not intervene in the 2016 election given the evidence that US Intelligence agencies have provided? Will you consider extraditing the 12 Russian officials that were indicted last week by a US Grand jury.

TRUMP: Well I’m going to let the president answer the second part of that question.

As you know, the concept of that came up perhaps a little before, but it came out as a reason why the Democrats lost an election, which frankly, they should have been able to win, because the electoral college is much more advantageous for Democrats, as you know, than it is to Republicans. We won the electoral college by a lot. 306 to 223, I believe. That was a well-fought battle. We did a great job.

Frankly, I’m going to let the president speak to the second part of your question. But, just to say it one time again and I say it all the time, there was no collusion. I didn’t know the president. There was nobody to colluded with. There was no collusion with the campaign. Every time you hear all of these 12 and 14 — it’s stuff that has nothing to do — and frankly, they admit, these are not people involved in the campaign. But to the average reader out there, they are saying, well maybe that does. It doesn’t. Even the people involved, some perhaps told mis(sed) stories. In one case the FBI said there was no lie. There was no lie. Somebody else said there was. We ran a brilliant campaign. And that’s why I’m president. Thank you.

PUTIN: As to who is to be believed, who is not to be believed: you can trust no one. Where did you get this idea that President Trump trusts me or I trust him? He defends the interests of the United States of America and I do defend the interests of the Russian Federation. We do have interests that are common. We are looking for points of contact.

There are issues where our postures diverge and we are looking for ways to reconcile our differences, how to make our effort more meaningful. We should not proceed from the immediate political interests that guide certain political powers in our countries. We should be guided by facts. Could you name a single fact that would definitively prove the collusion? This is utter nonsense — just like the president recently mentioned. Yes, the public at large in the United States had a certain perceived opinion of the candidates during the campaign. But there’s nothing particularly extraordinary about it. That’s usual thing.

President Trump, when he was a candidate, he mentioned the need to restore the Russia/US relationship and it’s clear that certain parts of American society felt sympathetic about it and different people could express their sympathy in different ways. Isn’t that natural? Isn’t it natural to be sympathetic towards a person who is willing to restore the relationship with our country, who wants to work with us?

We heard the accusations about it. As far as I know, this company hired American lawyers and the accusations doesn’t have a fighting chance in the American courts. There’s no evidence when it comes to the actual facts. So we have to be guided by facts, not by rumors.

Now, let’s get back to the issue of this 12 alleged intelligence officers of Russia. I don’t know the full extent of the situation. But President Trump mentioned this issue. I will look into it.

So far, I can say the following. Things that are off the top of my head. We have an existing agreement between the United States of America and the Russian Federation, an existing treaty that dates back to 1999. The mutual assistance on criminal cases. This treaty is in full effect. It works quite efficiently. On average, we initiate about 100, 150 criminal cases upon request from foreign states.

For instance, the last year, there was one extradition case upon the request sent by the United States. This treaty has specific legal procedures we can offer. The appropriate commission headed by Special Attorney Mueller, he can use this treaty as a solid foundation and send a formal, official request to us so that we could interrogate, hold questioning of these individuals who he believes are privy to some crimes. Our enforcement are perfectly able to do this questioning and send the appropriate materials to the United States. Moreover, we can meet you halfway. We can make another step. We can actually permit representatives of the United States, including the members of this very commission headed by Mr. Mueller, we can let them into the country. They can be present at questioning.

In this case, there’s another condition. This kind of effort should be mutual one. Then we would expect that the Americans would reciprocate. They would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence services of the United States whom we believe have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of Russia. And we have to request the presence of our law enforcement.

For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. They never paid any taxes. Neither in Russia nor in the United States. Yet, the money escapes the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent huge amount of money, $400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well, that’s their personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself. But the way the money was earned was illegal. We have solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers, guided these transactions. So we have an interest of questioning them. That could be a first step. We can extend also it. Options abound. They all can be found in an appropriate legal framework.

Full transcript...

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/16/17576956/transcript-putin-trump-russia-helsinki-press-conference

Peekaboo...

I see you.

https://jesustaught.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/trumpajoke.jpg?w=660

18 July 2018 Russia seeks charges against top US officials / Interfax

The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions. ...

https://youtu.be/pF8j-j8EKXU?t=127 (timestamp)

Putin Drops Bomb on Mueller: Russia Seeks Charges Against Obama-Era U.S. Ambassador & U.S. Intel Agents Allegedly Linked to Browder

The Prosecutor General’s Office of Russia named the names of employees of special services and US officials suspected of involvement in the illegal activities of the founder of the British Hermitage Fund William Browder, reports Interfax . Among them was the former US ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, to whom Russian investigators want to ask a number of questions.

Asked whether the list was exhaustive, Kurennoy replied: “Of course not.” “There are quite a large number of people who should be questioned with the participation of Russian investigators: they are people from among special services, congressmen, US senators, their assistants, various civil servants,” Kurennoy said. According to him, special services of states can enter this list. “For example, we would very much like to talk with Christopher Steele.” Also not an unknown person is an agent of the British Mi-6, for a long period of time he had contacts with a group of lobbyists of the Magnitsky Act, and interestingly, it was through this person that an investigation was initiated by the special prosecutor Miiller who everyone is known under the name “Trump file”, – added the head of the Office of the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Alexander Kurennoy.

Recall, on Monday at a press conference in Helsinki, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russian law enforcement officers can interrogate accused of interfering in US elections at the request of the United States and send a response to Washington. At the same time, he added, the Russian side in that case would expect from the American “that they interrogate those representatives of the US special services whom Moscow suspects of illegal actions on the territory of the Russian Federation, in the presence of Russian investigators.”

Vladimir Putin mentioned the so-called case of Hermitage Capital, a fund headed by financier William Browder, convicted in Russia of fraud.

Link to full article

https://truepundit.com/putin-drops-bomb-on-mueller-russia-seeks-charges-against-obama-era-u-s-ambassador-u-s-intel-agents-allegedly-linked-to-browder/

In a case tangential to the investigation of Bill Browder, here is the DHS lapdog special agent Todd Hyman sitting for a deposition in 2014:

03 March 2014 Todd Hyman, Special Agent DHS / Deposition
https://youtu.be/fT1be9zeF8o (2 min, 20 sec)

Partial transcript Todd Hyman deposition (includes clips in video above)
https://jaccuse.news/Hyman-deposition.pdf

Full transcript Todd Hyman Deposition (you need a scribid account (pay) to view (still searching for copy not behind a pay wall).

https://www.scribd.com/document/409994885/DHS-Investigator-Todd-Hyman-Deposition-in-Prevezon-case#

Full docket U.S. v Prevezon Holdings
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4352673/united-states-v-prevezon-holdings-ltd/?page=4

And Bill Browder's full deposition in that same case (its 6 hours long --- but believe me, you'll know all you need to know in the first few minutes:

15 April 2015 Browder Deposition (dodged process servers for two years)
https://youtu.be/kpy9uidJi80 (watch until you gag)

Full transcript
https://jimmysllama.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Browder-Deposition-04-15-2015.pdf

  1. You will hear one of Browder's lawyers ask to know who is listening remotely to the deposition. One of the U.S. government attorney responds, one of the attorneys listening in is Natalia Veselnitskaya (a white hat).

09 June 2016 Don Trump Jr. meeting in Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya

A meeting took place at Trump Tower in New York City on June 9, 2016, between three senior members of the 2016 Trump campaign – Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort – and at least five other people, including Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. The meeting was arranged by publicist and long-time Trump acquaintance Rob Goldstone on behalf of his client, Russian singer-songwriter Emin Agalarov.[1] The meeting was first disclosed to U.S. government officials in April 2017, when Kushner filed a revised version of his security clearance form.

Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer best known in the United States for lobbying against the Magnitsky Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_meeting

.. March 2010 Chrisopher Steele arranged for Bill Browder to meet with Jonathan WIner in Washinton, DC, who further vectored Browder to Sen. Ben Cardin and Sen. John McCain. The rest is Magnitsly Act (Russia Sanctions - Act I) history and another long post.

.. October 2016 Winer was Steele's conduit to infect the State Department with the Steele Dossier. DOJ IG was unable to question Winer in his investigation of FBI FISA Court submissions.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/19/christopher-steele-dossier-state-department-jonathan-winer-russia-senate-report/

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/10/jonathan-winer-christopher-steele-state-department-business/

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave..."
Over and over and over again...
You'd think they'd get better at it.

Now, go back and put the events in chronological order.

Making any more sense yet?