Maybe he can help reach the normies. My understanding is that Steve and his family got the original 2 jabs as if it were obviously the right thing to do. Then he found out it was bad and has been very vocal about it. The other guy that agreed to debate runs a cv testing lab, has developed antivirals and supplements in israel, does long cv testing on the usa.

(I'm not sure what a mod said i was doing wrong so hopefully this post is ok)