I'm not a Christian, but I'm sympathetic to a lot of Christian ideals. Pride means forgetting all the forces and people that helped you get to where you are.
I could be proud of my painting company and the beautiful rooms and exteriors I've created, but it NEVER would have happened without an incredible amount of help over the years starting with the people that taught me my skills, Youtube channels people have created, family and friends that loaned me money to get through the tough parts and allow me to buy expensive equipment, the incredibly patient and understanding customers I got at the beginning who referred me so much work. I could go on and on.
The mindset of gratitude will get you farther than pride. The saying "Pride comes before the fall" has a lot of truth and it's why the saying lives on. Pride is an exaltation of one's self and since you are not perfect, all powerful, all knowing, or
totally independent of others you are playing with fire to exalt yourself. In Christianity, even if you can't think of who to be grateful for, you always have God. Christianity has a nice mechanism for never becoming prideful or exalting another human, such as a king. Notice many kings, politicians and celebrities become prideful....how does that usually end?
Well said friend. Kind of mirrors me and my thoughts. I build patio improvements and pool enclosures mostly with aluminum. My dad (now 82) has worked with me every day for many years since his retirement, and now my son is also learning the trade before he goes and does whatever he decides to go and do. I am indeed thankful every single day. I am truly blessed.
I have no doubt that you understand. Waking up every day, with little concern for clocks, to go do something that you love to do is a remarkable thing. When I started, my kid was inside of his mom, he is now twenty-four. Twenty-four years of building something special by improving others lives with a product that I believe in is far more than I would have ever asked for, but I'm sure that you also understand that nothing was given. It all had to be earned. That is really the crux of my understanding the pride thing. I (also not religious by definition more so by behavior) earned it by years of dedication to my work. Ownership and pride seem to naturally lend themselves to serving others in the best way possible.
Maybe what I take away from your point is that pride in one's work differs from pride in one's self, provided that pride is also humbly wrapped in gratitude. I can accept that.
That's a cool trade. Everything you said is 100% spot on and I agree with your nuanced take on pride in one's work vs in one's self. That's a better way to put it.
I totally get, and agree with your point, but that is one that troubles me. Am I not to be proud of my work?
I'm not a Christian, but I'm sympathetic to a lot of Christian ideals. Pride means forgetting all the forces and people that helped you get to where you are.
I could be proud of my painting company and the beautiful rooms and exteriors I've created, but it NEVER would have happened without an incredible amount of help over the years starting with the people that taught me my skills, Youtube channels people have created, family and friends that loaned me money to get through the tough parts and allow me to buy expensive equipment, the incredibly patient and understanding customers I got at the beginning who referred me so much work. I could go on and on.
The mindset of gratitude will get you farther than pride. The saying "Pride comes before the fall" has a lot of truth and it's why the saying lives on. Pride is an exaltation of one's self and since you are not perfect, all powerful, all knowing, or totally independent of others you are playing with fire to exalt yourself. In Christianity, even if you can't think of who to be grateful for, you always have God. Christianity has a nice mechanism for never becoming prideful or exalting another human, such as a king. Notice many kings, politicians and celebrities become prideful....how does that usually end?
Well said friend. Kind of mirrors me and my thoughts. I build patio improvements and pool enclosures mostly with aluminum. My dad (now 82) has worked with me every day for many years since his retirement, and now my son is also learning the trade before he goes and does whatever he decides to go and do. I am indeed thankful every single day. I am truly blessed.
I have no doubt that you understand. Waking up every day, with little concern for clocks, to go do something that you love to do is a remarkable thing. When I started, my kid was inside of his mom, he is now twenty-four. Twenty-four years of building something special by improving others lives with a product that I believe in is far more than I would have ever asked for, but I'm sure that you also understand that nothing was given. It all had to be earned. That is really the crux of my understanding the pride thing. I (also not religious by definition more so by behavior) earned it by years of dedication to my work. Ownership and pride seem to naturally lend themselves to serving others in the best way possible.
Maybe what I take away from your point is that pride in one's work differs from pride in one's self, provided that pride is also humbly wrapped in gratitude. I can accept that.
That's a cool trade. Everything you said is 100% spot on and I agree with your nuanced take on pride in one's work vs in one's self. That's a better way to put it.