I've been ill the last few months, and with 2 kids at home and a wife my life is focused around working and providing for my family, making space for my dreams and hobbies, and living generally frugally. I'm rarely out in the evening anymore, maybe once a month.
I ended up going out with a couple of my (single, childless) friends last night and for both of them this was a near daily occurrence. One friend complained he was "so busy" with work and "having trouble" completing his few summer goals because it meant saying no to the constant barage of music festivals and social engagements he was being invited to. As someone who works 60-80 hours a week and has two children AND is fitting in my goals and side projects while managing a health condition this was completely laughable, and I did laugh.
Across from me, and kitty corner to me, and kitty corner the other side, and in the bar, were table upon table of overtly gay men.
What do all these people have in common, I thought... then it hit me. They have TIME and they have MONEY and NOTHING to save for.
They are SPENDING machines, looking for ways to fill all their time and spend all their money. If everyone was at home with their families and kids the place would be empty. They must have figured out that these people with stunted maturity are a goldmine, and the ultimate goldmine (and way to stump maturity) is to encourage one to be gay because they live a life of frivolity and meaninglessness. I don't mean that as an offence, but it's true. Without children and a care for the next generation, your life and mission has objectively less meaning.
So they push this narrative because these people spend NOW, they pay more tax, they work hard, they have dual incomes in every household and no responsibilities other than their cars, dogs, vacations, and endless nights at the bar.
They have been duped... and they don't even know it.
Thoughts?
I don't disagree that being gay tends to lead to a more frivolous life, though there are many exceptions to that rule.
I do disagree that it's effective to "encourage one to be gay." You're either gay or you're not, it's brain wiring that happens in utero. People without that wiring - which is 95+% - have zero interest in being gay. It's as useless to try to make a straight man gay as it is to make a gay man straight.
Wrong. Many narcissistic youth are flirting with homosexuality for attention or they mistakenly infer (because they were groomed since they were infants by society( that this type of sexual and gender experimentation is normal. They are greatly damaging their mental health and wellbeing in the process, and mentally ill "trans" are damaging themselves physically as well.
I'm not talking about experimentation. I'm talking about an immutable attribute. If a kid who is not gay experiments, sooner or later he'll determine it's not for him and move on. You can't "make him gay." Agreed that sexualization of any type at too young of an age is profoundly destructive.
Trans is whole different topic. Here's some fun statistics: 90% of kids who experience gender dysphoria will accept their bodies before they turn 18. 80% of kids who experience gender dysphoria turn out to be gay.
The trans ideology is taking those kids and mutilating them, with gleeful accomplices in doctors and pharmaceutical companies who see dollar signs. It's really just a woke version of conversion camp.
You can believe that, but many are making the "choice". They lies to us about it being genetic using science against us early on.
People lie to themselves ever day and I even had a gay guy I knew (who turned out to be a predator weirdo later fired from his job) that "every guy was a 12 pack away from being gay.
I believe one can become perversed, or at least irreversibly confused, by the gay/trans agenda. For sure.
Like, if I had had sex with men while in college to "find myself" as is happening so often now I'm not sure I could be the man I am today. I would be permanently affected by this. Thats the demonic part if the "pride" celebrations as well, they rub it in everyones face at least 5 weeks a year now.
I'm not trying to defend the bad behavior we see among many gays, and I agree that a libertine attitude has serious emotional and psychological ramifications, gay or straight. But as for it being a "choice" or not, well... I know more about this than you do. The behavior is a choice. The attraction is most certainly not.
If you're willing to broaden your mind, this guy does a nice compact summary of the neuroscience: https://youtu.be/QCX2PJJ-2BA
Can confirm. Am gay. I spent a year and a half of my life praying every night God would make me straight because it wasn’t something I could change about myself.
I'm a bit more hard-headed. I spent two decades.
The good that came out was I developed a relationship with God. I was trying to not be gay because that's what people I trusted told me God wanted. It took all that time for it to occur to me that I'd never thought to ask God what He wanted.
Haha. That’s dedication! I decided it’s not going to change. Decided I needed to come to terms with it and find where God wants me to settle in. If I was not going to date I wouldn’t have a partner, and really couldn’t have any guy friends because I’d get attracted. So I was looking at a lonely life and just female friends and it sounded miserable. But I found my happy medium!
Yep, that's pretty close to my experience though I think you're quicker on the uptake. Another part for me was, if I respect women (I have a mother and sisters and nieces whom I adore) then how is it fair to find a good woman and trick her into becoming a beard so that I comply with others' expectations? How is it fair to a woman to be married to a man who doesn't really want her? How cruel is that to everybody involved?
God wants us to be happy, and gay men are happy with men and happiest when in a faithful relationship. I suspect Paul was alluding to that when he spoke of "natural affections."
Im not saying some people are not gay. Im not even saying being gay is wrong (my best friend is gay).
What I am saying is the movement is labelling the "childfree" narrative as some how virtuous and desirable, and is encouraging sexual experimentation as if it were a choice.
Of course not all gays or single people live a life less meaningful than those with children, but unless a great contribution is made to the world, being a genetic dead end does not normally find justification, least of all for humanity as a whole.
The fact about having so much more income increasing the level of expenditure is obvious and again objective. Singles and those without kids can pretend to relate, but they cannit.
I get it, I have plenty of family and friends to observe. It keeps getting harder. Bad behavior by some gays definitely doesn't help, though it'd be a mistake to think of it as anything more than just a single front in the war on traditional values. Most of that war is fought among straight people, and the defenders of tradition have lost a lot of ground since the sexual revolution. Radical LGBTQXYZ ideology isn't much more than a supporting character in the overall story. Traditionalists would be much more effective by tackling the rampant fatherlessness than they would be by focusing on the gays.
The "genetic dead end" bit is plainly incorrect, as besides the fact that gays are perfectly capable of having kids (happens all the time where homosexuality is taboo), there have been gays for a long time, and we just keep showing up. Clearly there's some evolutionary purpose to it. I've come across some interesting theories on that front if you decide you're curious.