Forgive me I'm on my phone.
Trying to be brief, I wanna know where you all think we are in relation to the End Times specifically in relation to Revelation events of chapters 5-11.
People get fired up over this stuff but lets have some humility and not get caught up in the weeds over specifics. None of us saw God's people waging war with memes on their 'reading into the text'. Lol
My preception has become we are probably somewhere within Rev 5-11, and the Big Klotter has the big showdown on what seems to be a timer the book keeps these events constrained within in relation to another.
My opinion is a rough quick and dirty understanding of Revelation is meant to be easy to understand and that the seals are just human history in advanced given to us, unsealed thank be to Jesus Christ. Regardless of it's God provoked events, man or even evil provoked events. But then vials and trumpets are specifying its from God specifically events but happen to be contained within the seals timeframe so overlap naturally occurs.
I think the Rev 11 chapter ends with finality from God, then we see the same thing from the second witness He likes to require oftens prespective much like the Gospels He allotted 4 perspectives. The second perspective of these events just double the chapter of 6 and its 12, double chapter 7 and its 14. They coincide that way in my opinion, and the finality of 11 is the finality of 22 from a second witnesses perspective.
Thats my more nuanced take on it. Regardless, I say that to say, since I think we are within the 5-11 frame that also means I think we are within an overlapping 12-22 frame.
Q and the awakening however has me thrown for a loop, because this nosedive the world is in that fits Revelation and the timeframe constraint is there. The empowerment of the people though and resistance to the system, is something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime muchless at the moments that seem to be the end of days from every normie viewing angle, and has me question if we are really in this timeframe, a prelude to it for the mark of the beast? A whole generation away due to the massive blow the Q circles have brought to light? Anyone feel pretty oriented here?
Well...we are either going to have a Great Awakening or the Second Coming of Christ...I don't mind saying that I lean more heavily toward the Second Coming of Christ...I put more value into God and scripture than Q...and it is hard to ignore Revelation...my hope would be that there is a Great Awakening...but reality does sometimes collide with what I hope could be our future...after all I have children and grandchildren that I hope could have a happy life...
I have often wondered what a judgement on a country or people looks like...we have plenty of examples in the OT...so the question legitimately can be asked...are we in the judgements of Revelation or just heading to the precipice to usher in the Great Awakening...I respect people that believe differently...but whatever tomorrow brings it is important to fight for truth and justice...there is a lot of work to be done no matter what tomorrow brings...especially sharing the Gospel message...that is ultimately our only hope and salvation....
So...if people want to downvote fine...Q taught us to question and think for ourselves...and if nothing else we have been exposed to many evils that have existed throughout time...expertly honed by the passage of time...evil has always existed and the addition of technology has made the world a very hazardous place to live in...so my prayer is Maranatha...but hey...that's just me...
Here's a little something on judgment and Revelation...............wrote it a few days ago:
https://communities.win/c/ChristianAnarchism/p/16c2DRgvP6/the-eyes-of-jesus-christ-/c
I can't speak for anyone else.
I don't read Revelation as being in physical time. I read it as an all time spiritual drama that is talking place in the church of all times.
We are presently watching a fall of Babylon, and a waking up of the sons of God in the spiritual order of the 144,000.
God wins.
Have faith in humanity.
Have faith in yourself.
Jesus Christ is our Supreme Commander in the great awakening
Not yet. No great miracles, no fake peace( for goodness sake, we are on the verge of Kiev,Moscow or Taipei getting nuked at any moment), everything going to shit, no charismatic leader uniting the world under fake promises of peace,prosperity and godhood that all that bow down to him shall recieve (not only adrenochrome-guzzling multi-mllionaires).
We are in a major flashpoint in Human History, that's for damn sure.
For sure.
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I always thought the cabal that runs the world and crowned themselves kings fit perfectly with the description of the whore of Babylon. Maybe what we are seeing today is the opening stages of her fall. There is no time line for how long this takes. It will be a great victory for mankind while the play continues on…
Q doesn't mean everything literally. All of this could be in the sense that in the end we take control back of our country and begin restoring humanity back to true reality.
Q could be referencing the bible as an easy way to explain this.
Tru dat. Other countries will need to have their own great awakening and deliver justice to the traitors and tyrants or remain slaves for the foreseeable future
What about the idea that the millennium already happened and we are in the thousand years of Satan's reign?
If you know anything about Tartaria and the mud floods, there is similar architecture all over the world that we can't duplicate today, such as the great cathedrals, palaces, and Capitol buildings.
These buildings did not contain bathrooms by default.
In other word, the Second Coming already happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0CmFTAMemE
Great point.
I think it's constantly happening as each person has an opening of the book of God by Jesus Christ in their life.
The four beasts of the throne of God say come and see!
Very exciting times.
if we think of it like a movie... the Bible (two volumes of it) present the problem, the adversary. narrative structure dictates that things should be scary near the climax....something must be at stake.
wouldn't be very exciting if act 1 or 2 explained that we all live happily ever after.
the real ending is better than anyone here has imagined. expand your thinking
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I submit that the cabal using Revelation as a means to their end; The 4th seal, widespread death and destruction seems to nail what has happened since 2020. the clotshot, the widespread arsons and the filth of the blue cities all point to human causation. We ALL have agency in this life and like Satan wanting to rule everything, the cabal tries to remove our agency. Attempting to make a self fulfilling prophecy mocks God and the robbers will face destruction and doom.
I think we are witnessing the setup (precursor) to the NWO, one world ecumenical, beast rise of power. I think this will become more biblical that most can imagine. The antichrist has not yet been revealed but I feel that we are worming our way to Christ destroying the earth and setting up his 1000 year kingdom. Only a few thing missing that could come to pass in the matter of a few short years. 3.5 to be exact. Do not fall for the lie that we all escape persecution. We do not. We do, however get to escape the judgment God is going to pour out on this earth and all that worship the creation rather then the creator. We will witness it. Too many times we are told throughout scripture that “when we see the abomination that make Jerusalem desolate”, to run and pray that it not be on the sabbath! America can be great again but the evil (antichrist) must be revealed and destroyed before Christ sets up heaven on earth. So many will be unprepared and will ignorantly take the mark because they were taugh a lie. A lie that says all the Christian’s will disappear. So when it happens they will say, “that’s impossible!” Satans greatest trick and Gods promise to send a great delusion that Christ said, “even the very elect would be fooled!” After the abomination the sun and moon are darkened and hell is unleashed as God pours out the vials. This will be in the mid point. After the abomination. And Christ promised to shorten those days as he will gather the saint, the dead first and then those that are alive and remain. It’s gonna get bad as the antichrist will see to persecute all that refuse to worship the beast. Stay frosty frens and read your bibles. It’s written plain as day.
Most churches likely will(and deserve) to burn, as they are little more than grifters and liars(Megachurches, Vatican). Heck, there are some agnostics and even pagans that are more firmly bound to whats morally right (promoting the protection, improvement and advancing of mankind) than many "born again" christians