I know there are mixed opinions on Rogan. I've enjoyed his podcast for years. I was pleasantly surprised to see Oliver Anthony on. I'm just starting to watch myself. Here is a clip on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH75fQ3SVO8
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I listen to my intuition about people. Obama & DeSantis always rang the ding-dong bell for liar to me. Rogan & Anthony seem pretty real, and like Trump they say what matters to real people, not vague promises & fancy words like some folks like to hear.
Editing to add, thank you for the response. I haven't listened to the podcast yet, except the Proverbs quote, but I look forward to it now!