It is dependant i give u that. I am a retired cop and let me tell you, up until i left, i watched as the quality of cop degraded over the years. The ones who have independent thought are very close to retirement by now. The ones with about 5 years and longer till retirement are in it for the money now. The ones whonare going to these protests are new guys with the drone mentality. Senior guys arent really being ordered to these events. Now, it is not set in stone, many that would stand up are senior, some are junior. Many that are drones are junior, some are senior.
But youbare right, it is not true in all situations, if i was a betting man, i would linger around the senior guys. At least i stand a fairer chance. My opinion ofcourse.
Amen, I witnessed this change starting over two decades ago and made me glad I was going into retirement. About 5 years ago I had two vehicles in front of me ready to go into the main road. Watching the situation as the light changed and they had incoming traffic i suspected best to stay in my spot as both vehicles would probably need the space backing up. The lead vehicle floored it and made a right turn. the second vehicle she backed up in a hurry in her panic and forgot to change it back to drive and left it in reverse. When the light changed she got of the brakes and she was stunned her vehicle was rolling into reverse. She rolled into my vehicle. I informed her not to move the vehicles but she did .
When the city cops showed up their was a new hire with a Sgt. as his FTO. The Sgt. strutted like a peacock. You know the drill always sizing up the situation in real time. I told them the facts and the lady told her story. A older cop showed up and he knew I was retired from the SD. The Sgt. then came up to me stating I changed my story because of my experience to make the fault on the lady. This was done more his ego to impress the new hire. I said she is five yards away from making a right turn unless she wants to put it into four wheel drive and jump the curve and drive on the field. i said second the eye in the sky has this recorded. he asked eye in the sky ? I said the shopping center cameras. Dispatch can provide the time the cam came in and we can then see the footage and my story will line up. It is not like we need NASA to get a license plate number from this distance as we have established the vehicles involved in a TA 50. And for emphasis for his insult to me I stated yes the Sheriff did make me return all my issued gear and patrol car. But he never asked me to turn in my years of experience. This is why I was glad I retired before things went tot6ally south. They left it to the insurance companies to fight it out. I sent pictures of the vehicles with my statement to my insurance company and later the woman admitted her car rolled backwards and struck mine.
I can share a few stories so incredibly stupid by new hire actions nobody would believe it. Like suspecting a church being broke into and the sign showed mid week services happening. Thankfully I stuck to coffee but this kind of crap does make drinking tempting. It happened.
Oh the feild trainers are the worst. I saw how most, not all babied these ppl. I was one by force, and from the beginning i would tell my rookie i am not their friend, i dont want to do this. I told them my job is to make sure you are safe, go home alive, dont do stupid things, make ur reports rock solid, and where to get the best food in the area where there wont be spit (city cop problems lol). As the classes came and went, i saw first hand the quality hired degrade. I too could go on and on, but damn my last wave of rookies were just empty husks.
The police are not on our side. They are on the side that pays them, and that side is not on our side.
Not true in all situations. There are some but not all.
It is dependant i give u that. I am a retired cop and let me tell you, up until i left, i watched as the quality of cop degraded over the years. The ones who have independent thought are very close to retirement by now. The ones with about 5 years and longer till retirement are in it for the money now. The ones whonare going to these protests are new guys with the drone mentality. Senior guys arent really being ordered to these events. Now, it is not set in stone, many that would stand up are senior, some are junior. Many that are drones are junior, some are senior.
But youbare right, it is not true in all situations, if i was a betting man, i would linger around the senior guys. At least i stand a fairer chance. My opinion ofcourse.
Amen, I witnessed this change starting over two decades ago and made me glad I was going into retirement. About 5 years ago I had two vehicles in front of me ready to go into the main road. Watching the situation as the light changed and they had incoming traffic i suspected best to stay in my spot as both vehicles would probably need the space backing up. The lead vehicle floored it and made a right turn. the second vehicle she backed up in a hurry in her panic and forgot to change it back to drive and left it in reverse. When the light changed she got of the brakes and she was stunned her vehicle was rolling into reverse. She rolled into my vehicle. I informed her not to move the vehicles but she did .
When the city cops showed up their was a new hire with a Sgt. as his FTO. The Sgt. strutted like a peacock. You know the drill always sizing up the situation in real time. I told them the facts and the lady told her story. A older cop showed up and he knew I was retired from the SD. The Sgt. then came up to me stating I changed my story because of my experience to make the fault on the lady. This was done more his ego to impress the new hire. I said she is five yards away from making a right turn unless she wants to put it into four wheel drive and jump the curve and drive on the field. i said second the eye in the sky has this recorded. he asked eye in the sky ? I said the shopping center cameras. Dispatch can provide the time the cam came in and we can then see the footage and my story will line up. It is not like we need NASA to get a license plate number from this distance as we have established the vehicles involved in a TA 50. And for emphasis for his insult to me I stated yes the Sheriff did make me return all my issued gear and patrol car. But he never asked me to turn in my years of experience. This is why I was glad I retired before things went tot6ally south. They left it to the insurance companies to fight it out. I sent pictures of the vehicles with my statement to my insurance company and later the woman admitted her car rolled backwards and struck mine.
I can share a few stories so incredibly stupid by new hire actions nobody would believe it. Like suspecting a church being broke into and the sign showed mid week services happening. Thankfully I stuck to coffee but this kind of crap does make drinking tempting. It happened.
Oh the feild trainers are the worst. I saw how most, not all babied these ppl. I was one by force, and from the beginning i would tell my rookie i am not their friend, i dont want to do this. I told them my job is to make sure you are safe, go home alive, dont do stupid things, make ur reports rock solid, and where to get the best food in the area where there wont be spit (city cop problems lol). As the classes came and went, i saw first hand the quality hired degrade. I too could go on and on, but damn my last wave of rookies were just empty husks.