Family of Christian Teen Condemned to Death by Doctors Sounds Alarm
(www.thegatewaypundit.com)
Death Panels
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
Comments (55)
sorted by:
I'm really conflicted on this. I 100% am behind people being able to seek whatever treatment they would like. And I don't believe that they should have been able to force her into palliative care against her wishes and the wishes of her family.
But how was she going to pay for the experimental treatment? That type of treatment is really expensive. She wanted to go to Canada to get it, but she was not a Canadian. Canada had no obligation to pay for any treatment she got there. And considering how Big Pharma is not to be trusted, why would it be a good idea to trust them about this therapy?
And why are they making a point out of telling us she's Christian? I don't see anywhere how her religion affects this case. I get the impression that because of her name and appearance people might presume she's non-Christian. I kind of feel like they're trying to trigger other Christians into getting angry on her behalf over this in some misguided belief that Christians are being persecuted in the UK.
PS- I just saw a post on this thread that has made me look at this a different way. Someone from the UK who has been following this story says that she was free to leave anytime she wanted. The articles I read made it seem like she was under the equivalent of house arrest when she was put into palliative care. If that's not true and she had the opportunity to leave to go to Canada whenever she wanted, then the Doctors in the UK aren't responsible for her not seeking treatment there, in my opinion.
They were saying Canada was doing a clinical trial. Those are usually provided free of charge because they are part of the development process for a particular treatment. The down side is they are not guaranteed to work and not guaranteed to be safe, but if you're going to die anyways, you can opt to take that risk.
Also, in cases like these, where there is a lot publicity, raising money from the public starts to become quiet viable and some doctors and hospitals even offer to provide treatment at reduced cost or for free (they cover it themselves) on humanitarian grounds.
And it's not guaranteed she would have gotten a place in the trial.
That's a good point that it's relatively easy to fundraise.
I've been reading all the articles I can find about this and I don't understand why she and her family didn't take matters in their own hands instead of waiting for the doctors in the UK to do it for her.
Some of the articles make it seem like she was on some version of house arrest under palliative care. But from other articles and what an Anon from the UK who has been following this story says, she could have left at any time.
So the question still is, why didn't she and her family pursue this avenue on their own?
Thanks for giving us the information regarding the clinical trials. It helps to have someone who is in the business correct those of us who are just assuming the way things are.
The sad part is nothing in medicine should be expensive. It should cost what it cost. Not marked up 400%
Mmm, that subject can get really prickly really fast.
Anytime it's pointed out that for-profit healthcare is a product of capitalism, people get really angry and defensive because they think it's criticizing capitalism to point that out.
But how would we change it? Ban people in the medical field from making a profit? Or capping the amount of profit they can make? Considering the (in my opinion, valid) low opinion of Big Pharma and the healthcare system in general around here, most people wouldn't have a problem with that.
But if we somehow prevented people from making a profit, or capping their profit, on healthcare, then our entire healthcare system would be crippled. Because most people involved aren't going to stick around just out of the goodness of their hearts.
So what then? Have the government fund research and development and production of healthcare services? Now we have socialized healthcare.
So you see how fast that conversation can get heated?
Big difference in for profit and taking advantage though. Doctors and nurses should be paid well. And treatment should be capped to be reasonable. They rape the sick and needy.
I agree that huge markups in healthcare are not ethical. But where do we draw the line there? Who determines what is an acceptable amount of profit? And do we apply that to all businesses or just healthcare?
Doctors and nurses are just a tiny percentage of where money goes in healthcare.
And you can't force businesses or healthcare workers to accept what you believe is a reasonable profit. The only reason most people work in areas like pharmaceuticals and hospital equipment manufacturing and supply is because of those huge profits. You cut their profits and they're going to go somewhere else to make their money. So our healthcare system still collapses.
I'm not on the side of for-profit healthcare. Or advocating for people in the medical industry making huge profits. I'm also not advocating for socialized healthcare. I'm just trying to point out the realities of the business.
Christians are being persecuted, Take a look around the world. Under Obama more Christians were killed by ISIS. I remember three small children ISIS beheaded because they told ISIS they love Jesus. But people should be given the right to try.
I'm not saying that Christians aren't being persecuted in general.
I'm saying that there is no obvious reason why the writer made her religion an issue here. I just feel that it was a tactic to trigger an emotional response in other Christians.
I noticed medical allowances for other religions ? Why was the right to try dismissed ?