I think #6 is more like an Ecclesiastes type of mindset. It's all a chasing after the wind. All that matters is Jesus and he loves us very much. This doesn't bring in action though. It brings Godly action rather than personal justice. To truly rebel you must know the true enemy. We battle not against flesh and blood.
I understand your frustration, truly I do. However when you make it about this life can you truly live for Jesus. Jesus went to the cross in a very brutal way. Was mocked and spit on. Yet he knew that his battle was not against those people. He could have snapped his finger and killed everyone that wished to seek him harm. Yet he had love and grace for them. Forgive them father they know not what they do. Remember we all fall short of the glory of God. We all have corruption and technically each of us should get death. It's by grace you live. It's tough putting justice in the hands of the creator. I truly do understand the frustration you have. This life here is not about us nor is it our home. He is bringing a kingdom down from above that will be glorious and full of perfection. We are called to reflect Jesus. I brought up the book that I did for a reason. The writer had it all and he realized it was all just chasing after the wind.
I appreciate your honesty btw fren. We are family in Christ. I know these are frustrating conversations and filled with emotions. So I won't take your words as offensive ok
Also this isn't to say Jesus can't use his people to bring about Justice. However it's gonna be people that live in #6 not doing it through there own will
Also we are all sheep. The bible is clear on that. It's who is our Sheppard that's important
I want you to preach that sermon to all of the children that are being raped right now on there way to the US. Preach it to your wife while your daughter is strangled to death. Preach it when the action comes to your street.
I'll reflect Jesus just fine. Remember the part where he tore up the temple? Remember the part where he comes back and the blood is up to the horses bridles? Remember the one where the man after God's own heart said that God 'taught his hands to fight'? Remember the part where Jesus said if you don't have a sword, sell your coat and buy one?
Christians aren't supposed to be tolerant of everything. Paul said as much as possible live at peace with all men, but what about the men you can't live in peace with?
As for safety and lawn security, if a man doesn't provide for his own, he has denied the faith and is worse than the infidel. That's in the Bible too, and if 'they' mess with me and mine, they will find out what love can do.
Also, I'm not frustrated and I don't appreciate the condescending attitude.
Let's call it passionate then. This seems like a very passionate topic for you so I'm gonna back out because nothing I say will break through. How about this, can we both agree to pray on each other's words, with an open heart. Listening for the voice of God. Then talk more if anything comes.
My use of frustration was not condescending in any way. It's a situation u can't really change so that brings about frustration. It's not meant in a negative way. However we will call it passion or zeal now ok? 😁😉🤗❤️
I think #6 is more like an Ecclesiastes type of mindset. It's all a chasing after the wind. All that matters is Jesus and he loves us very much. This doesn't bring in action though. It brings Godly action rather than personal justice. To truly rebel you must know the true enemy. We battle not against flesh and blood.
It's flesh and blood invading my country.
While the sky pilot Christians figure it all out with pretty thoughts, down in the dirt Christians are being raped and slaughtered.
This is why I don't really want to go to church. I would go full Number Four on most of them.
EDIT: No offence intended to anyone.
I understand your frustration, truly I do. However when you make it about this life can you truly live for Jesus. Jesus went to the cross in a very brutal way. Was mocked and spit on. Yet he knew that his battle was not against those people. He could have snapped his finger and killed everyone that wished to seek him harm. Yet he had love and grace for them. Forgive them father they know not what they do. Remember we all fall short of the glory of God. We all have corruption and technically each of us should get death. It's by grace you live. It's tough putting justice in the hands of the creator. I truly do understand the frustration you have. This life here is not about us nor is it our home. He is bringing a kingdom down from above that will be glorious and full of perfection. We are called to reflect Jesus. I brought up the book that I did for a reason. The writer had it all and he realized it was all just chasing after the wind.
I appreciate your honesty btw fren. We are family in Christ. I know these are frustrating conversations and filled with emotions. So I won't take your words as offensive ok
Also this isn't to say Jesus can't use his people to bring about Justice. However it's gonna be people that live in #6 not doing it through there own will
Also we are all sheep. The bible is clear on that. It's who is our Sheppard that's important
I want you to preach that sermon to all of the children that are being raped right now on there way to the US. Preach it to your wife while your daughter is strangled to death. Preach it when the action comes to your street.
I'll reflect Jesus just fine. Remember the part where he tore up the temple? Remember the part where he comes back and the blood is up to the horses bridles? Remember the one where the man after God's own heart said that God 'taught his hands to fight'? Remember the part where Jesus said if you don't have a sword, sell your coat and buy one?
Christians aren't supposed to be tolerant of everything. Paul said as much as possible live at peace with all men, but what about the men you can't live in peace with?
As for safety and lawn security, if a man doesn't provide for his own, he has denied the faith and is worse than the infidel. That's in the Bible too, and if 'they' mess with me and mine, they will find out what love can do.
Also, I'm not frustrated and I don't appreciate the condescending attitude.
Let's call it passionate then. This seems like a very passionate topic for you so I'm gonna back out because nothing I say will break through. How about this, can we both agree to pray on each other's words, with an open heart. Listening for the voice of God. Then talk more if anything comes.
My use of frustration was not condescending in any way. It's a situation u can't really change so that brings about frustration. It's not meant in a negative way. However we will call it passion or zeal now ok? 😁😉🤗❤️