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My Comment: I just knew there was going to be psychotropic drugs involved in this mass shooting. Earlier, I posted on how this is fueling the mass shootings we're seeing. To read it, click on the following called, When Will People Realize Psychotropic Drugs Are Responsible for All Mass Killings? In the comment section, u/Morpheus11 provides an interesting consideration to all of this. This recent tragedy deserves repeating that list. I contend.... and its only a working theory, that the government has co-opted and weaponized the field Psychiatry. We know, especially in communist nations, that psychiatry is used by governments around the world to imprison political dissidents and to justify using the police state to take away freedoms that is an apparent threat to the ruling regime. With the case of the FBI to manufacture crimes, we see this taking place at many different degrees. So, why wouldn't the government make use of the field of psychiatry to push psychotropic drugs to further their agenda to 'justify' banning guns? Also, we must consider the ever-present push to enact 'Red-flag' laws, which is an end around Second Amendment rights. They are inherently ambiguous and can apply to almost anyone. I say this partially as a theory to explain the oft repeated tragedies we are witnessing and not presenting evidence thereof. However, I do believe the latest mass shooting in Maine deserves repeating that this follows the ever-growing list of killer's on Psychotropic Drugs. The following is a list that I have built over the years, which may have been based on an outdated publication. Another publication providing a listing is only current until May, 2019, but may vary in composition than my list. Compare it and see. The website listing of killers on psychotropic drugs can found Here.
At least 37 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 175 wounded and 82 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs). The most important fact about this list, is that these are only cases where the information about their psychiatric drug use was made public.
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft. Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.) Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, AZ
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas OR
TLDR; They are withholding what type of drugs, not withholding the drugs themselves.
Since you didn't read the article, it seems to explains why you didn't catch that the authorities are withholding what drugs the shooter was on. Why even comment when if it is "Too Long; Didn't Read"? How does this amount to adding to the discussion? If TLDR is because you have ADS, I'd be happy to break it into small parts for you to read.
I was addressing the misleading title for those who don't want to read the whole article. The title could be misread to mean that someone withheld the meds from the guy.
The TLDR was for those that don't have the time and just want to know what the heck op, you, meant when you posted an unclear title. Thanks for playing!
It's a linked article. Didn't you read the second line? You must be new to understanding that titles are often shortened. Have you ever heard, "don't judge a book by its cover'? This is essentially what you are doing. All you had to do was click on the link to see.
Let's be honest here. The "TDLR" comment was really about you alone. Because of your seeming ADS, you're now suddenly saying you have a heartfelt feeling for other ADS sufferers? I'm not buying it. If you can't add to the discussion, instead of criticizing the size and the title, keep your comments off the board. Just walk away.
I'm not going to lie dear brother I read it as withholding I actually thought it was a good thing the first time I read it I was like finally here's a state that is saying we're no longer going to let pharmacists give out this drug that was responsible for a shooting but I guess I'm getting a little ahead of myself let us hope soon that our states do refuse to allow pharmacists to give these disgusting contortions of pharmakia to people