I have valid questions regarding religion. How many are there? Thousands? This community is supposed to be all about the facts and difficult truths if I am not mistaken. This is not to insult or offend anyone. But as someone who does not subscribe to any religion it makes me wonder why the Christian version of religion is accepted here by so many when by using facts and reason you will come to the conclusion that it is all about control.
I am with this movement to save our country but when I see people pushing religion here I have to ask why. I am asking sincerely. Anyone who really digs into it will realize that the bible is loaded with contradictions, magic, violence and much more nonsense that is unacceptable by those who have not been indoctrinated like myself.
I am told by a Christian friend that if I do not accept Jesus as my savior that I deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Seems a little harsh does it not? There are some extremely smart people here so I am looking for an explanation as to why Christianity and the god associated with it is the only one. Does that mean that the Sentinelese people will burn for eternity because they have not accepted this god portrayed as a white man from the middle east as their savior? It doesn't make sense. It is clear that religion divides. Am I mistaken when I say this movement is in part about unity? Is every Islamic person going to burn for eternity? Is every Hindu person going to burn for eternity? Everyone who does not accept your version burns for eternity? That is weird, irrational and is clearly a system of control.
I want to be clear that I am 100% behind ridding the world of the evil scum that are ruining our country but religion is the one thing that I cannot understand. And I have done my research. We have proof of civilizations that existed far before the bible was written by man. Not to mention the bible has been altered and rewritten how many times? Radiocarbon dating shows Göbeklitepe was constructed between 9500 and 9000 BCE. That's 12,000 years ago. It is widely accepted that the bible claims the earth and the universe is 6,000 years old. How do you explain that? If Göbeklitepe is 12,000 years old then the bible is either wrong or radiocarbon dating is inaccurate if you accept the Bible as fact. That is one example of many. I can only assume that there are structures that have not been discovered yet that are even older. The oldest human skeleton has been said to be around 230,000 years old. So the earth and universe are not 6000 years old. When I discuss this with Christian friends of mine the answer is the same. It's either some wild mental gymnastics attempting to explain the discrepancies or they get angry and say something that amounts to nothing. You just gotta have faith.
I want to be clear that I am not here to start a name calling contest that leads nowhere. I just wish someone could explain how you come to your conclusion that Jesus Christ is the one true god. If you had been born in Indonesia it is very likely you would believe that Allah is the one true god. The region you were born in determines which version of god you are indoctrinated into. And then there is the killing of each other over these beliefs which I find grotesque and unacceptable.
Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur'an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God.
This is a truth community and that is what I am seeking. I am open to constructive conversation regarding what I have said above but name calling and insults will prove nothing and be ignored. I am not rejecting Christianity. I am sincerely interested in how so many of you very smart people have come to the conclusion that most of the world deserves to burn for eternity for not believing in one of thousands of versions of god which to me is clearly another form of division.
Thank you for listening. My mind is open to those who reply. From the Christians I personally know the response I receive is either an angry one or they finally end up saying I just need have faith. Their anger tells me that they are upset that I questioned their version of religion. And having faith in my opinion is equal to giving up on searching for truth. In addition praying is equal to doing nothing. It's like saying I stand with Ukraine while sitting in your favorite chair watching CNN.
Again, nothing here should be misconstrued as a personal insult. I am not attacking your or your beliefs. I am just struggling to understand how you settled with your version of god and how you explain the contradictions and discrepancies therein.
I have valid questions regarding religion. How many are there? Thousands? This community is supposed to be all about the facts and difficult truths if I am not mistaken. This is not to insult or offend anyone. But as someone who does not subscribe to any religion it makes me wonder why the Christian version of religion is accepted here by so many when by using facts and reason you will come to the conclusion that it is all about control.
I am with this movement to save our country but when I see people pushing religion here I have to ask why. I am asking sincerely. Anyone who really digs into it will realize that the bible is loaded with contradictions, magic, violence and much more nonsense that is unacceptable by those who have not been indoctrinated like myself.
I am told by a Christian friend that if I do not accept Jesus as my savior that I deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Seems a little harsh does it not? There are some extremely smart people here so I am looking for an explanation as to why Christianity and the god associated with it is the only one. Does that mean that the Sentinelese people will burn for eternity because they have not accepted this god portrayed as a white man from the middle east as their savior? It doesn't make sense. It is clear that religion divides. Am I mistaken when I say this movement is in part about unity? Is every Islamic person going to burn for eternity? Is every Hindu person going to burn for eternity? Everyone who does not accept your version burns for eternity? That is weird, irrational and is clearly a system of control.
I want to be clear that I am 100% behind ridding the world of the evil scum that are ruining our country but religion is the one thing that I cannot understand. And I have done my research. We have proof of civilizations that existed far before the bible was written by man. Not to mention the bible has been altered and rewritten how many times? Radiocarbon dating shows Göbeklitepe was constructed between 9500 and 9000 BCE. That's 12,000 years ago. It is widely accepted that the bible claims the earth and the universe is 6,000 years old. How do you explain that? If Göbeklitepe is 12,000 years old then the bible is either wrong or radiocarbon dating is inaccurate if you accept the Bible as fact. That is one example of many. I can only assume that there are structures that have not been discovered yet that are even older. The oldest human skeleton has been said to be around 230,000 years old. So the earth and universe are not 6000 years old. When I discuss this with Christian friends of mine the answer is the same. It's either some wild mental gymnastics attempting to explain the discrepancies or they get angry and say something that amounts to nothing. You just gotta have faith.
I want to be clear that I am not here to start a name calling contest that leads nowhere. I just wish someone could explain how you come to your conclusion that Jesus Christ is the one true god. If you had been born in Indonesia it is very likely you would believe that Allah is the one true god. The region you were born in determines which version of god you are indoctrinated into. And then there is the killing of each other over these beliefs which I find grotesque and unacceptable.
Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur'an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God.
This is a truth community and that is what I am seeking. I am open to constructive conversation regarding what I have said above but name calling and insults will prove nothing and be ignored. I am not rejecting Christianity. I am sincerely interested in how so many of you very smart people have come to the conclusion that most of the world deserves to burn for eternity for not believing in one of thousands of versions of god which to me is clearly another form of division.
Thank you for listening. My mind is open to those who reply. From the Christians I personally know the response I receive is either an angry one or they finally end up saying I just need have faith. Their anger tells me that they are upset that I questioned their version of religion. And having faith in my opinion is equal to giving up on searching for truth. In addition praying is equal to doing nothing. It's like saying I stand with Ukraine while sitting in your favorite chair watching CNN.
Again, nothing here should be misconstrued as a personal insult. I am not attacking your or your beliefs. I am just struggling to understand how you settled with your version of god and how you explain the contradictions and discrepancies therein.
Take it up in the general discussion.