There's evidence that Jesus travelled to India and Tibet in his younger years, there where the bible says he was a carpenter during those years. There's many video's on this subject. Here are just two:
7min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjERTNVXgfg
30 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEvomvO8cb0
This is important to know because it helps us to understand what Jesus really meant with that you have to go through him to enter the Kingdom of God. What this really means is that you have to become ego-less (like Jesus) to enter the Kingdom of God.
In Eastern traditions this is often referred to as ego-death or Enlightenment. And to achieve ego-death we need to go within. "Know Thyself" and "The Kingdom of God is Within" is what Jesus said.
Praying really hard to God and Jesus and accepting Jesus as your saviour will not get you out of the reincarnation process. And yes, there is evidence that Jesus originally spoke about reincarnation as well. But obviously the TPTB did not want to empower the people and therefore they would have had enough motivation to scrap reincarnation from the bible.
If you don't achieve ego-death, like Jesus, in this lifetime you don't have to worry. As long as you did not live your life in a completely selfish manner, you will go back to that place called heaven and then after a while you decide to reincarnate again. Even if you do end up in hell (which will feel like an eternity) you will get a chance again to redeem yourself. Even our brothers and sisters from the darkside were created by God.
Don't let dogmatic believers convince you that you only have one chance. People saying you only have one chance should have a good hard look at themselves. Instilling people with fear is not a good thing and is not what God and Jesus are about.
If you really didn’t believe God existed, you’d just roll your eyes at us idiots, and go about your day.
This was a thread of Christ-believers having a discussion about the nature of Christ and salvation.
But for some reason you felt the need to insert your two cents. Why is that?
Why are you emotionally incapable of just scrolling past? Why the overwhelming need to make sure we all know you’re an atheist, and we are wrong?
Is it for our benefit? Or is it for your own?
I hope you do some serious soul searching. The so-called Christians that hurt you when you were a child is not our fault, and not God’s fault.
You got me! I really do believe in god and hate him. Actually I think what you do is detrimental to the world. I just naturally want to counter stupidity. How much more advanced could humanity be without this nonsense being so influential for these thousands of years? How obnoxious is it to flood the board with it every single day? Q stands for free thinking which you are clearly demonstrating you hate. You can't stand to hear from someone who disagrees with your dogma and has good reason.
I know. I already stated that. Although I don't believe you are even aware of it yourself.
And I think what you do is detrimental to the world.
Yep, I get that. You think I'm stupid, and I think you're stupid. I used to feel the need to get into online arguments in order to "counter stupidity", as well.
Non sequitur. Neither of us have a crystal ball. I believe that Christianity has improved the world, you do not.
Sorry others' faith gets your panties in such a wad. Speaking of Q, there's plenty of Q posts about God. #3594 is one of my personal favorites. Why on earth would you invoke Q, when Q is apparently a Christian (or, at least not a full-on atheist such as yourself)? Do you feel that supports your argument?
Please explain. It sounds like you're claiming that because my research into Christ resulted in me coming to a different conclusion that you, that means "I hate free thinking".
That is really quite a stretch, don't you think? Is everyone required to come to the same conclusion about everything that you do, otherwise they "hate free thinking"?
Maybe our definitions of "free thinking" are different. For me, demanding everyone have the same opinion as I do is the opposite of free thinking. What's yours?
Really? I'm in a thread about the nature of Christ and salvation, providing my on-topic opinion, and you decided you needed to come in here and "show those stupid theists how stupid they are".
It appears that you are the one that "can't stand to hear from someone who disagrees with your dogma". Yes, atheism is a dogma. It takes FAR more faith to believe that this universe and the order of it (vs chaos) just happened by random chance than it does to believe there is an intelligent designer.
Look, this comment thread has gotten so deep, and this topic is so old, no one else is going to see it except us. There's no reason to grandstand on each other.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation, I'm game. If you want to learn WHY I believe how I do, and what things caused me to believe as I do, I'd be happy to share it.
However, I won't hold my breath.
I'm trying to imagine believing there is a god of all existence who takes a unique interest in our planet out of all of them. He watched all of humanity be turned to evil so he flat out murdered everyone but Mr. Perfect, Noah and sons. Then after all that still believing this god is good and gracious. It's so completely stupid it's shocking anyone could subscribe to that today. Then you have the gall to ask how I discipline my children. I would never do harm to a child let alone ever murder one like your sick object of worship did to millions of them according to your book.
I see you have no interest in any kind of discussion. Your hatred is on full display. I hope you find peace of some kind one day.
Condescending but moronic