I just had an "encounter" with an atheist Q supporter here. I don't believe he is a shill or anything like that, but the dialog got me to start wondering.
Trump is pretty clearly Christian. Q posted bible verses making it pretty clear that he or they are Christian as well.
Based on what I was told by my debate partner, we Christians are spreading stupidity across the globe, and he feels it is his duty to show us how stupid we are (paraphrased - not his exact words.)
So here's my question: If you vehemently believe that there is no God, no higher power whatsoever, and all of this universe is just random happenstance, then why do you follow Q and support Trump?
How do you reconcile Q and atheism?
With epstein there have been statements by eyewitnesses for years and a conviction in court long ago. In the new testament there are no witness statements by people who knew jesus. You can choose to believe it. To claim it is based on evidence is not true as far as I can see. If such mind-boggling supernatural events did occur I would think someone at the time would have mentioned it in their writings when it happened. The gospels came way later.
I understand where you come from, there was a period in my life when i was atheist. I'm not looking to argue, only help share expanded thinking.
When Jesus said "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28) - This verse has been proven true in the lives of many people who have turned to him for solace and peace during times of stress, anxiety, or despair (eg: the last 3 years). Through faith and surrendering burdens to Him, they have found comfort, strength, and a sense of peace that surpasses understanding. I'm one who can attest to this as being true as well.
The point im trying to make is that there are evidences of testimony, that if we quickly ignore, we may overlook a real truth, and it expands our thinking to consider them. I've been tripped by not doing this myself a number of times. But i now try to not be quick to dismiss, and if i am going to dismiss - i need to be certain.
I think that is a bending of the meaning of proof. People believe all kinds of things and feel very strongly about them. To me it doesn't matter how many believe it either. Do you think the number of hindus and the sincerity of their belief validates the reality of their pantheon?
It's more like finding out our definitions of proof are bound by the rigidity of man, which limit or deprive everyone of important truths, and burdens humanity with the weight of long-term lies (or corruption).
I'm saying how do you know it is true? The philosophical problem I have with faith is it requires thinking one knows for sure it is absolute truth. My thinking is based on doubt. I try not to believe anything if I can help it, especially not 100%. As a human being at a retarded stage of our species (I think we are intellectually stunted with an almost unlimited upside) I figure I'm bound to be wrong. There will always be a better way to understand a given thing. Why does it seem so enlightening to think this way?