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"Probably"? That was the point of the wiki link, fren :). Footnote #2 explains one of the specific incidents in the song.
Okay, "probably" was probably ;) the wrong word to use. I was falling asleep trying to read and write and it just didn't click. My apologies.
I still think Frank knew the ins and outs (accidental pun), of the industry.
Oh undoubtably. I mean he was based in LA - though I don't buy that he was really part of CIA ops or whatnot. I looked into that book on Laurel Canyon and while I'm sure a lot of it is true, I don't think just being there automatically made you part of it. Esp as FZ, while somewhat big in his prime, was not particularly mainstream or popular overall, and was a frequent critic of gov't, media, and similar going way back.
I'd say his one main character flaw (I don't count picky/hard to work with/asshole as such, just goes with the territory with this kind of genius) was groupies and the enjoyment thereof, Moon was particularly scathing in her criticism about that.
Well, Frank was a man, caught up in the culture of the time and Moon is a woman of her generation, so I guess I can understand the criticism, (especially if someone named me 'Moon Unit', thank goodness 'Dweezil' was just a nickname! 😄).
Yeah, I'm sure some on the fringe may not have been involved or maybe tangentially, but I think they ALL knew what was going on. After all, "Young girls [were] coming to the canyon....."
Moon said her mom was well aware of it and not happy about it but didn't want to make a thing about it and have him run off with a groupie etc.